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Anavar Test E cycle critique

Reliable Rick

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Long time member but haven't been all that active. I have ordered some gear and would like input on the best way to dose it. I'm 67 years old with many years of training off and on under my belt. Right before the pandemic, I had been making a lot of progress training at home, until I suffered a knee injury. After two years I was beginning to think that I wouldn't ever be able to train like I was again, but after about six months of "fake it till you make it" training, I went back to the gym and have resumed a full training routine again. Recent blood tests were clean, and showed that my testosterone levels are at the low end of normal, so not TRT for me. Not covered by insurance anyway. Now I'm thinking this could very well be my last hurrah and decided to do a mild beginners cycle of Test E and Anavar. The product is on order and I'll have 10 ml of test e 250, and 150 10mg tabs of Anavar.

Based on some things I've picked up from some influencers (Mike Israetel for one), I thought I would cycle these compounds like this:

Week Anavar (mg/day) Test e (mg/week)
1 10
2 10
3 20
4 20
5 30 250
6 30 250
7 30 250
8 30 250
9 30 250
10 250
11 250
12 250
13 250
14 250

I also have some Clomid on order and will run this after depending on any side effects. My thinking is that by starting with Anavar alone for the first four weeks, I can see how well, or badly, my body responds to it. If badly, I'll probably put a stop to the whole process and regroup. If things are going well, I'll start running the test. I have enough for ten weeks so I might as well use it up.

About thirty years ago, I did a test/dianabol cycle and after making some good gains had a major crash after, only because the people I was working with at the time never said anything about PCT. I had no idea that I didn't have to lose all my gains during six months of low energy that hit me after I finished the cycle. Hoping to avoid that if I can.

So does this seem like a reasonable plan? Is this too long a cycle? Should I start test the same time as the Anavar and/or shorten the cycle? Any suggestions are appreciated.
 
I'm 5 years younger than you. I do things a little differently, not because of age. in that sense we are very similar. sounds like you are low T to me. If you are under 400 ng/dL you are low in my book. Staying on a low dose of test indefinitely probably would not be a terrible first notion. In my mid 50s I did a similar cycle but went strait to 200 mg/w and 40 mg/d Anavar for 8 weeks. Worked wonders. 30 mg/d Anavar probably would be similar. Then you could just drop to 125 mg/w for a month or two. If you want to do a PCT/restart after your cycle Clomid would be part of it. I add in hCG during the cycle and when coming off test. Then add Clomid for a few weeks after that. Then i suffer low T at about 300-450 ng/dL until i decide to go back on. I pretty much still cycle on and off with TRT part of the year and i take 2 off periods of 4-8 weeks each year. I do plenty of blood work to track things and adjust as needed for health. There are plenty of places you can order blood work on your own and just waltz into a Quest of LabCore and get them done. Places like Personalabs or Privatemd are two that I have used. There are some guys on this site that can help you to order the right tests and interpret as needed including me.
 
Long time member but haven't been all that active. I have ordered some gear and would like input on the best way to dose it. I'm 67 years old with many years of training off and on under my belt. Right before the pandemic, I had been making a lot of progress training at home, until I suffered a knee injury. After two years I was beginning to think that I wouldn't ever be able to train like I was again, but after about six months of "fake it till you make it" training, I went back to the gym and have resumed a full training routine again. Recent blood tests were clean, and showed that my testosterone levels are at the low end of normal, so not TRT for me. Not covered by insurance anyway. Now I'm thinking this could very well be my last hurrah and decided to do a mild beginners cycle of Test E and Anavar. The product is on order and I'll have 10 ml of test e 250, and 150 10mg tabs of Anavar.

Based on some things I've picked up from some influencers (Mike Israetel for one), I thought I would cycle these compounds like this:

Week Anavar (mg/day) Test e (mg/week)
1 10
2 10
3 20
4 20
5 30 250
6 30 250
7 30 250
8 30 250
9 30 250
10 250
11 250
12 250
13 250
14 250

I also have some Clomid on order and will run this after depending on any side effects. My thinking is that by starting with Anavar alone for the first four weeks, I can see how well, or badly, my body responds to it. If badly, I'll probably put a stop to the whole process and regroup. If things are going well, I'll start running the test. I have enough for ten weeks so I might as well use it up.

About thirty years ago, I did a test/dianabol cycle and after making some good gains had a major crash after, only because the people I was working with at the time never said anything about PCT. I had no idea that I didn't have to lose all my gains during six months of low energy that hit me after I finished the cycle. Hoping to avoid that if I can.

So does this seem like a reasonable plan? Is this too long a cycle? Should I start test the same time as the Anavar and/or shorten the cycle? Any suggestions are appreciated.
Looks OK, I probably would start with test at the same time as anavar. Would take atleast 2 weeks before you start notice the testosterone, and anavar way sooner. But you have to be aware of that your natural test levels will be even lower after the cycle, even when using clomid. And then you can go to doctor and may get TRT prescripted? but if not I Would just do it myself.
Maybe use small cycles like this sometimes, and use 125mg test a week year round. With 2-3iu HGH?
Can use things like BPC 157, TB500 and nandrolone also for joints
 
I would start the TEST with the ANAVAR.

AB
 
Go for it! Check your blood work precycle then check it during the cycle whenever u can to get yourself some metrics to monitor your health.
 
Like other have stated, definitely start the Test E with the anavar. I would run the anavar 10mg twice a day from the get go til you run out. One additional item I would suggest adding if you are like me and have hammered joints is a low therapeutic dose of deca somewhere in the range of 50mg per week is a good starting point to experiment with. Before you start definitely get a full blood panel done. Call you doc and tell them you want to do a full physical. At 67 getting this done twice a year should not be an issue with your doc or insurance.

Side note, if you are on the low end of normal, you may want to consider doing your own version of hrt after this. A nice weekly dose of 100mg test e of test c is a good starting point. Just make sure if you do, you stay up on getting your blood work done. Best of luck.
 
Like other have stated, definitely start the Test E with the anavar. I would run the anavar 10mg twice a day from the get go til you run out. One additional item I would suggest adding if you are like me and have hammered joints is a low therapeutic dose of deca somewhere in the range of 50mg per week is a good starting point to experiment with. Before you start definitely get a full blood panel done. Call you doc and tell them you want to do a full physical. At 67 getting this done twice a year should not be an issue with your doc or insurance.

Side note, if you are on the low end of normal, you may want to consider doing your own version of hrt after this. A nice weekly dose of 100mg test e of test c is a good starting point. Just make sure if you do, you stay up on getting your blood work done. Best of luck.
I was thinking that by starting with one compound, it's a more conservative approach and if there are any side effects I'll know which is the culprit. Also by starting slow, I can determine the minimum effective dose, which with Anavar could be somewhere between 20 and 40 mg. But I like the simplicity of your suggestion here. I suppose that for what is essentially my first cycle, and a mild one at that, it won't make that much difference. I can still make adjustments as necessary.
I think the suggestion about Deca is interesting. My joints are pretty hammered, so I'll look into that for the next cycle. Thanks!

Now I'm just watching the tracking information, or lack of, on some deliveries. This part is excruciating.
 
I was thinking that by starting with one compound, it's a more conservative approach and if there are any side effects I'll know which is the culprit. Also by starting slow, I can determine the minimum effective dose, which with Anavar could be somewhere between 20 and 40 mg. But I like the simplicity of your suggestion here. I suppose that for what is essentially my first cycle, and a mild one at that, it won't make that much difference. I can still make adjustments as necessary.
I think the suggestion about Deca is interesting. My joints are pretty hammered, so I'll look into that for the next cycle. Thanks!

Now I'm just watching the tracking information, or lack of, on some deliveries. This part is excruciating.
You will know which one is test causing the issues compared to anavar. Also, starting them at the same time, the anavar will be noticeable well before the test. So in that regard you’ll know if you can handle it or not.
 
Looks good to me if anything dosed a little low but it will do you solid
I know this is an old post from you, but what dose is low to you? I'm assuming it's the anavar you're saying is low. What would you recommend running it at & for how long?
Thoughts on 50mg for 12 weeks?
 
I know this is an old post from you, but what dose is low to you? I'm assuming it's the anavar you're saying is low. What would you recommend running it at & for how long?
Thoughts on 50mg for 12 weeks?
That’s reasonable however you’ll really rock it at 50 mg 2x a day
But since your going 12 weeks slow and steady is great for gains as well

You can’t make a bad choice there in to 50 to 100 mg zone
 
That’s reasonable however you’ll really rock it at 50 mg 2x a day
But since your going 12 weeks slow and steady is great for gains as well

You can’t make a bad choice there in to 50 to 100 mg zone

So 100mg split between 2 - 50mg doses?
Morning and evening?

I've never personally ran Avar, thinking of incorporating this go round
 
So 100mg split between 2 - 50mg doses?
Morning and evening?

I've never personally ran Avar, thinking of incorporating this go round
Yeah that’s it man you’ll love it
 

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