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4-week results! (followed Big A's routine)

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I had been having trouble getting over the 250 pound hump. I've gotten close to 250, but never over by any significant amount, and never over to stay. So, I searched through threads and articles and came upon a 3-day split that BigA posted in an article some time ago. For a long time, I followed a 5 day on, 2 day off routine (Mon-chest; Tues-back; Wed-shoulders; Thurs-arms; Fri-legs) with weekends off.

BigA's plan called for a Mon, Wed, Fri split, with Tues, Thurs, Sat, Sun off (Mon-Chest, Shoulders, Tri's; Wed-Quads, Hams, Glutes; Fri-Abs, Back, Bi's). With tkav1980's help nailing down my rep scheme (it's more like high intensity training), I set out with my new course of action on April 26th, weighing 243 pounds with 11% bf. This routine forces you to make progress every time you're in the gym, whether its adding more weight, or more reps, and focuses much more on big, compound movements than it does isolation exercises. I also added cardio on Tues/Thurs/Sat, no more than 30-45 minutes with target heart rate kept within fat-burning zone.
DIET
I modified my diet, added some more protein and lot more complex carbs and good fats. Calorie intake during this time was about 7,500, with 400 grams of protein, 920 grams of complex carbs, 250 grams of fat (almost all unsaturated 'good' fats). My diet consisted of 3 meals and 3 shakes, plus a simple carb drink during workout and ABB's XXL drink post workout. I get all of my complex carb powder and other powders from True Protein, I can't say enough about their quality versus any other I've used in the past.
GEAR
If I was using gear, I would have stayed with what I was already using at the time, which would have been: Insulin 5iu's pre-workout, 1 gram/week test enth, 300mg/week deca, 100mg/day adrol (cycling orals on 4 weeks, off 4 weeks, during this time period, I was on for the first 2 weeks, off for the last 2).
SUPPLEMENTS
The other supplements I took daily are: Vitamins: A-8,000iu's*2; Nature Made Super B-Complex*2; chewable C-500mg*4; D-1,000iu*2; E-400iu*2; Magnesium-400mg*2; Zinc-50mg*2; Selenium-200mcg*2. Other supplements taken daily: Milk Thistle-1000mg*2; Fish oil-1000mg*2; CoQ10-50mg*2; Acidophilus *3; Glucosamine/Chondroitin/MSM/HA-1500mg/300mg/120mg*2; Chewable multi-vitamin+iron*2; Aloe Vera juice 4oz/day; Creatine 10g/day. If you haven't tried aloe vera juice, you should, it is good for so many different things, kidneys, liver, joints, inflammation, etc.

THE RESULTS:
Beginning weight: 243lbs, 10%bf. Weight after 4 weeks: 262lbs, 11%bf, waist size remained the same. 19 pounds gained in 4 weeks! I also took measurements after 2 weeks and adjusted a few of the exercises for areas I was lacking development. At the end of the four weeks my gains were as follows: 1" on arm, 2.5" on neck, 1.5" on chest, 2.5" on thigh, .5" on forearm, .5" on calf. Even though I've almost thrown-up in the gym a few times, it was definitely worth it! I'm still following this routine and plan on continuing until I hit another road block.

A very sincere thank-you to you tkav1980 for all of your help with my questions, and a heart felt thank-you to BigA for all he does and for this, the most awesome board on the net.
 
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At the end of the four weeks my gains were as follows: 1" on arm, 2.5" on neck, 1.5" on chest, 2.5" on thigh, .5" on forearm, .5" on calf.

What was the change in measurement around your waist?

Not hating at all.. just seems very unlikely you gained 15+ LBM in 4 weeks ("off" AAS - even though the major players in that stack were still in your system for a portion of, or all of, that time if you stopped immediately before starting that routine). We're you completely off everything? Slin?

If so, and you're BF only went up 1% - you're a true freak, i.e. an anomaly.
 
if drugs and exeercise routine stayed the same be careful and watch your bodyfat cuz adding ALOT more carbs that aren't burned as energy will put on body fat and from your results look like it is happening already.
just watch it. 4 weeks is not a lot of time, the body is just beginning to chagne to your new regimine IMO. keep it up and keep tracking results! and i would get a bit leaner but thats just me.
-JS
 
nice man I'm going to use Big A's routine as soon as some injuries heal up. i dont' expect to gain that much but nice results.
 
Great results man! would love to see some pics as those are some large ssize gains.
 
One inch on arms in 4 weeks? I hate to be the dickhead, but it sounds like you just put on fat mostly. Fat and water are probably what made up those measurement differences. How did you get those BF percentages? 10 to 11? Calipers aren't exact. It is my understanding you would not be able to measure a 1% difference reliably.

I'm an intermediate bodybuilder and have 1/10th of the experience of a lot of the bros here, so someone feel free to shoot me down if you feel I'm wrong in this assessment.
 
Pics are the best proof! I personally find it hard to believe, but hell I guess if you have pro genetics its possible.
 
What was the change in measurement around your waist?

Not hating at all.. just seems very unlikely you gained 15+ LBM in 4 weeks ("off" AAS - even though the major players in that stack were still in your system for a portion of, or all of, that time if you stopped immediately before starting that routine). We're you completely off everything? Slin?

If so, and you're BF only went up 1% - you're a true freak, i.e. an anomaly.

The "if I was on AAS" was meant to be a way of saying what I was on without actually admiting it in an open forum..., but since it seems to have led to some confusion:
I was already on, (and had been for the past couple of months), 1g test enth/week, 300mg deca/week, anadrol 100mg/day first two weeks (I cycle orals on 4 weeks, off 4 weeks...another idea I learned from BigA some time ago), so I stayed with what I was already on, and wanted to see if the change in method of training, along with the diet adjustment would net results and get me past my 250 pound plateau. I'd never even attempt such a workout sans gear.
As far as waist, I can wear size 36 pants, but they don't fit my legs/glutes right, so I get 38's, sometimes even 40's and cinch the waist up with a belt, but the fat I did gain was definitely in my mid-section.
As far as gear, I've always tried to use the least possible to still make gains, as I learned long ago that the bulk of the battle is diet and training.
BigA's routine is no joke, and it forces you to either add more weight or more reps every single time you go to the gym to lift. And it focuses primarily on big, compound movements. I have never trained like that before, and I'm sure that's why I was able to make such gains being it was my first time trying such a program, and I know.....the gains will slow as my body adapts, then I'll just have to figure out what else I can do to keep it going, but right now, its working nicely....
BF was measured by the same gal at my health club using Hydrodensitometry Weighing, they offer it twice a year for free with your membership, and it costs 100 bucks a pop if you want more than that.
I think that covers everything, unfortunately I don't have any "before pictures", I've always kept track with a training journal, the scales, measuring tape, and the occasional BF measurement, but please know that I have nothing to gain from any deception....I just wanted to let others know that there definitely is something to this type of high intensity training. I'll see what I can come up with for some now pictures, I'm not a very technical guy, but I think my gf has a digital camera...:eek:
 
Nice results but I must admit at your size and only 400gms of protein, I find that a little low no? I am like 220ish or so and I consume more that much and sometimes a little less (depends on the day) and sometimes a little more. If you are open to trying something different after this go around I would drop those carbs and up the protein, maybe add more to your shakes. See what happens when you crack 500+gms of protein a day. Just a thought.
 
Still no pics?
 
DIET
I modified my diet, added some more protein and lot more complex carbs and good fats. Calorie intake during this time was about 7,500, with 400 grams of protein, 920 grams of complex carbs, 250 grams of fat (almost all unsaturated 'good' fats). My diet consisted of 3 meals and 3 shakes, plus a simple carb drink during workout and ABB's XXL drink post workout. I get all of my complex carb powder and other powders from True Protein, I can't say enough about their quality versus any other I've used in the past.

You got that much protein and carbs outta 3 meals and 3 shakes? Ya mind inboxing me your diet? I'd like to see
 

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