a buddys contest prep...opinions/advice please

[flexmaster]

this is all starting 8 weeks out unless otherwise noted...

HE'S ABOUT 208 WITH A CONSERVATIVE 8%BF...HE DID NOT "BULK" USING SUPPS IN THE OFFSEASON BUT RATHER HE LIKES TO GROW INTO CONTEST CONDITION KIND OF LIKE LERVONE WAS KNOWN TO.

TEST PROP- 100MG EOD
TREN E- 250MG EW (DOESNT HAVE TREN ACE./NEVER USED ANY FORM OF TREN BEFORE)
MASTERON- 100MG EOD
DROL- 40MG ED FINAL 3 DAYS
WINNY- 100MG ED(last 6 weeks)
PROVIRON- 50MG ED
CLEN- 80MCG EOD CYCLED W/ECA (ASPIRIN TAKEN ON CLEN DAYS AS WELL)
AROMASIN- 25MG ED
HCG 500IU EOD POST CYCLE FOR 8 DAYS
NO INSULIN/GH/IGF/T3

HE WILL POSSIBLY USE INJ. LASIX...HE HAS IT BUT HASNT DECIDED.
ALSO, HE HAS SYNTHETEK'S VASOLIDATOR, BUT HAS A VERY SLIGHT CASE OF ASTHMA...AND BY VERY I MEAN VERY...BIG A...SHOULD HE BE ALRIGHT WITH THIS? HE HAS ALBUTEROL INHALERS, WOULD THAT HELP IN CASE THIS AFFECTED HIS ASTHMA?

MEAL PLAN

MEAL #1
8 EGG WHITES
2 WHOLE EGGS
1 CUP OATMEAL

MEAL#2
75G PROTIEN POWDER
20 GRAMS OF GLUTAMINE
1 TABLESPOON FLAXSEED OIL
1 MED. GRANNY SMITH APPLE

MEAL#3
10 OZ. CHICKEN BREAST
1 CUP STEAMED LONG-GRAIN BROWN RICE(COOKED)
1 CUP RAW BROCOLLI W/ FAT FREE RANCH (VERY LIGHT)

MEAL#4
75G PROTIEN POWDER
3 CUPS NON FAT COTTAGE CHEESE

MEAL#5
8 OZ. SALMON/TUNA/CHICKEN BREAST
6 OZ. SWEET POTATO'S
1 CUP ROMMAINE LETTUCE W/1 TABLESPOON NON-FAT ITALIAN

MEAL#6(POST-WORKOUT)
75G PROTIEN POWDER
10 GRAMS OF GLUTAMINE
1 SCOOP VITARGO

MEAL#7
12 OZ. STEAK/CHICKEN COMBO
2 CUPS ROMMAINE LETTUCE W/NON FAT ITALIAN DRESSING


SNACK: 2 PLAIN RICE CAKES W/2 TABLESPOONS ADAMS 100% NATURAL PEANUT BUTTER

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THIS DIET SHOULD LOOK FAMILIAR TO ANYONE SEARCHING WYLDE'S OLD POSTS . CARB MEALS WILL GRADUALLY BE CUT OUT AND REPLACED WITH PROTIEN MEALS AS BIG A OUTLINES IN HIS CONTEST PREP ARTICLE.

HOW DOES THIS LOOK TO EVERYONE??? suggestions please!!!

 

[b-boy]

im only going to say this::: PLEASE DON'T use lasix unless you really, really,REALLY!!!!!!!!!!!! know what your doing, even then i still wouldn't use it. try aldactone, and or diazide!

 

[flexmaster]

im only going to say this::: PLEASE DON'T use lasix unless you really, really,REALLY!!!!!!!!!!!! know what your doing, even then i still wouldn't use it. try aldactone, and or diazide!

even inj lasix? i thought inj. is easier to control thus safer...? i did a search for the aldactone/diazide combo...what do you prefer for doses?

 

[big_byrd52]

i just want to say that i had better results losing wgt for my PL meet than i did for both my BB shows. I used oral lasix twice, and did several hot baths to sweat. i was vascular and dry by the time weigh in cam on friday morning. i wish i had taken pix cause i was ready to step on stage! ....but the next day was a different stroy after putting all that wgt back on in 12 hrs! can u say Stay-Puff Marshmellow Man?!

 

[Coopie]

Looks tight overall! Just two comments -

1. I find that Clen worls best for me over the long run. In other words, yes it works well when I first start it, but 6 to 8 weeks later I am still benefiting so I have never stopped it due to diminishing returns. I do cycle my dose up and down on a weekly basis though.

2. Lasix pills work well for me and I never saw the need for inj. Lasix. Plus, it has been implicated in the deaths of Munzer and well, I forgot who else. Stick to the pills and stay safer.

 

[dirkmoneyshot]

No Offense but your friend should be using a diet that is specifically put together for him and his body. Not some cookie cutter put up in the articles.

 

[flexmaster]

i just want to say that i had better results losing wgt for my PL meet than i did for both my BB shows. I used oral lasix twice, and did several hot baths to sweat. i was vascular and dry by the time weigh in cam on friday morning. i wish i had taken pix cause i was ready to step on stage! ....but the next day was a different stroy after putting all that wgt back on in 12 hrs! can u say Stay-Puff Marshmellow Man?!

thanks big_byrd52, what was your dosage for the oral lasix?

Looks tight overall! Just two comments -

1. I find that Clen worls best for me over the long run. In other words, yes it works well when I first start it, but 6 to 8 weeks later I am still benefiting so I have never stopped it due to diminishing returns. I do cycle my dose up and down on a weekly basis though.

2. Lasix pills work well for me and I never saw the need for inj. Lasix. Plus, it has been implicated in the deaths of Munzer and well, I forgot who else. Stick to the pills and stay safer.

thank you Coopie, when you cycle your clen, what are your dosages?

No Offense but your friend should be using a diet that is specifically put together for him and his body. Not some cookie cutter put up in the articles.

i agree to an extent...but if you do not start out with a general contest prep diet where will you go from there? someone who is relatively new to competing does not know thier body as well as someone who has competed for years. everyone needs to start somewhere correct? this diet has been modified in places though based on some of his personal preferences.

 

[chris250]

I believe everyone is different and responds different to drugs and diet...All I can say is that it looks good on paper...He can always adjust as the weeks go on...

chris

 

[MikeS]

Anadrol should ONLY be done last 3 days. 2wks of use will definately cause water spill over. 3 days will cause RBC increase-fullness and vascularity before estro-progest water retention can occur.
Clen works for 8wks? Dont you have to do huge amounts as beta receptors
downgrade? Unless you take something to prevent downgrade (ketofin).

 

[big_byrd52]

Flex, i used 40 mgs thurs morn about 10am and 40 mgs at 6 pm, no water intake. i was pretty much done pissing and the second lasix didnt make any difference.

MikeS, for me clen also works over the long haul. i got the idea from Bigkiwi and it works really well.

 

[flexmaster]

I believe everyone is different and responds different to drugs and diet...All I can say is that it looks good on paper...He can always adjust as the weeks go on...

chris

thanks chris...good to see you posting again...i hope everything is going well for you!

Anadrol should ONLY be done last 3 days. 2wks of use will definately cause water spill over. 3 days will cause RBC increase-fullness and vascularity before estro-progest water retention can occur.
Clen works for 8wks? Dont you have to do huge amounts as beta receptors
downgrade? Unless you take something to prevent downgrade (ketofin).

thanks for the tip on the drol...will do!

Flex, i used 40 mgs thurs morn about 10am and 40 mgs at 6 pm, no water intake. i was pretty much done pissing and the second lasix didnt make any difference.

MikeS, for me clen also works over the long haul. i got the idea from Bigkiwi and it works really well.

thanks big_byrd52, good stuff.

 

[flexmaster]

change

after reading through some of bigkiwi's posts about clen, i think ill tell him to cycle the clen with eca...doing 80mcg eod, but also running the aspirin on the clen days as well. anyone done this? i know bigkiwi does/did

 

[Big Ian]

Anadrol should ONLY be done last 3 days. 2wks of use will definately cause water spill over. 3 days will cause RBC increase-fullness and vascularity before estro-progest water retention can occur.

Interesting, I've heard of people using drol prior to a bb'ing contest before but usually in the manner of using it for a week or two prioer to the comp & then cutting it out a few days out from the comp. What sort of dosage would you recommend for this method Mike? Is one 50mg tab/day sufficient & should it be split up throughout the day?

 

[saint]

Looks like a good place to start and adjust as you go. I agree with the idea of using Lasix pills or Ald. or Diaz. If he's already at 8% and weight is around 208 if he uses Lasix it may be to strong and make him small and flat?