Advice needed, Trenbolone/Winstrol

[al99actionman]

Name is al, my first post ever on Professional Muscle
Age 23 Weight 205 Max Bench 295(2 rep's) arms 18" etc......

My question Is TrenBolone and Winstrol a good Cycle for a sort of newbie like me, and if so what should be my intake, and how often, kinda lost. did my research for about 6 or 8 months and everyone all over the web says different so im completely freaken lost but i heard alot of gr8 feedback on Trenbolone/Winstrol, so i plan on trying it, because i want to cut up for the summer but the tricky part is i want to keep my bulk, I also fear acne and if thats a bad cycle plez inform me with ur ideas.Thanks Goodfellas,

p.s. i'll appriciate any help and advice u guys can give me.

 

[DLStryker]

No flaming intended, but you won't get many (if any) positive feedback unless you read the rules and post accordingly. don't feel bad, a bunch of guys post these questions and THEN read the rules and understand how to better word their posts. -STEELE

Steele, not trying to be sarcastic, but I didn't see a problem with his post. What was the problem?

Stryker

 

[eroc613]

Me either, but don't let "old fella" get a hold of you. Being 23 years old. I think your to young, but to each his own.

And if your worried about side effects (like acne), why bother? Choose one or the other. you can't have it all.

 

[HardKnox]

So you want to cut up for the summer eh?

I don't even see you mentioning diet at all, which is what will 'cut' you up and not the AAS.

You're either going to get lean or you're going to stay bulky.....you ain't gettin it both ways.

 

[niko gatti]

is your tren 75mg or 100mg.

Im guessing 75mg



6-8 weeks. You should start to really start seeing your body comp start to alter in the 3rd week.

But cardio is a huge key/diet. You should keep your current strength up well, don't worry about the "bulk" your trying to get cut remember.

 

[mr. boom]

Just read up on sides of tren first. You are doing the right thing by asking instead of trial and ERROR...

 

[marooned]

Name is al, my first post ever on Professional Muscle
Age 23 Weight 205 Max Bench 295(2 rep's) arms 18" etc......

My question Is TrenBolone and Winstrol a good Cycle for a sort of newbie like me, and if so what should be my intake, and how often, kinda lost.

*No Tren and Winstrol are not a good cycle for a beginner.

did my research for about 6 or 8 months and everyone all over the web says different so im completely freaken lost

*You have not done enough research. If you have researched enough you would not have chosen these two compounds, you would ask about sides and PCT, you would have read the board rules, and you would already have the answers to your questions by using the search function in the forum and articles sections.

but i heard alot of gr8 feedback on Trenbolone/Winstrol, so i plan on trying it, because i want to cut up for the summer but the tricky part is i want to keep my bulk,

*Cutting is done with DIET not gear. There are things that can aid in losing BF or keeping mass but your DIET is the control of cutting.

I also fear acne

*Acne is a very commone side of Tren Acetate.

and if thats a bad cycle plez inform me with ur ideas.Thanks Goodfellas,

*There are already tons of threads about first cycles, newbie cycles, etc. with good ideas.

p.s. i'll appriciate any help and advice u guys can give me.

*It is good that you posted before jumping into this. Myself and many of the members here do want people to be safe and healthy first of all. I'm not hammering on you just encouraging you too research, understand, and be safe. Good Luck.

Marooned

 

[oldfella]

First cycle.....test Only, NO orals and no longer than 12 weeks. A post above also highlighted that you have not given any particulars on diet!! This is the absolute first place to start with any thing. Now you use tren and winnie together and you start to get some puffy nips......what do you do??? or you start to get pain just under your chest and feel bloated all the time......what do you do???? what is the cause....is it the winnie? is it the tren? is it a combo of the two that is causing some probs?? Your BP is through the roof....what is the cause?? your piss is orange....what is the cause, is there blood in your urine??? What is the cause??You look like the pillsbury dough boy, all puffed up and shit.....what is wrong here??? Your kidneys ache....why???

Exactly, you have no fucking idea what is causing what!!!! test only......well your answer to sides is very clear cut. So you see the problem with first cycles and muli compounds? Be safe and be smart, tune up your nutrition first and then think about AAS not the other way around!!

 

[Quad-smack]

Bump Oldfella

Oldfella is spot on. If you must, test only, only 1/2 of what someone else posted earlier (your body will respond up to a certain amount - any more just gives you more side effects) - absolutely no more than 12 weeks.
The synthetic compounds you mentioned may be just what an advanced BB'er might need. As you stated, you are a 1st timer and young. Stick with natural compounds that your own body produces and knows how to deal with.
Just remember - a solid training program and FOOD will give you more growth than anything else. My suggestion is to tune up your training & nutrition program - take that as far as possible, THEN consider other options.
My $.02

 

[garcia]

OLDFELLA:

Just to complete your thought, what exactly WOULD be the issue in this hypothetical? I would love to know, just to know.

 

[Dad]

Here's the problem with the original post:
The Board rules weren't adhered to. For the umpteenth time:
Yuo can NOT ask for cycles set-ups, doses, etc.

Steele was absolutely correct - thank yuo, Steele!