Alistair Overeem cycle guess'

[massmonster32]

He is not even that big everyone now days thinks they are some kind of MMA person. Until they go out on the street and get their azz handed to them. Sheesh we need a fight section I guess. MM:spam:

 

[iwantmass]

Can we please ban the all those that start threads like these. Its completely irrelevant and not consistent with what this board represents. Send this guy elsewhere or be prepared for a slew of similar posts.

 

[Bionic]

Cheat Sonnen. Tim Sylvia. Josh Barnett. No MMA guy is a household name. Over 50% of Canadians don't know who Georges St. Pierre is. So are you saying that the AC's are being bought? If so, please explain the shitty judges and Steve Mazzagatti.

 

[Magnolia5]

It's that horse meat!

 

[chemistery-brain]

its not about what he takes, its about his body type and response to gear...

 

[Michaelthomasj]

Cheat Sonnen. Tim Sylvia. Josh Barnett. No MMA guy is a household name. Over 50% of Canadians don't know who Georges St. Pierre is. So are you saying that the AC's are being bought? If so, please explain the shitty judges and Steve Mazzagatti.

LOL yeah...Mazzagatti has to be the worst. Its unbeleivable how this fucking guy has a job

 

[King-kong]

Ummm. That was a pretty gay video. Didnt see anything amazing there - 135 lb bench i think.

 

[kid1dakota]

True that but i suppose some of the big names get a "heads up" if ya know what I mean. I competed in drug free organizations even set a world record in one held it for 6 yearsand I was juiced to the max. Somehow I passed....Been piss tested, polygraph(if ya can believe that shit) and somehow always passed. Didnt hurt that I was sponsored by the largest PL supplier either. If they wanna nail ya they will. Look- we all know these guys juce. In NFL atleast half. They make an example outta some poor guy with a big name in respective sport here and there to seem on top of things. Its all corrupt. $$$$

The "heads up" is their fight date.Pre and post fight tests.They are essentially independent contractors if you will.They sign a contract for either a number of fights or certain length of time.They go off and do their own thing at their own camps with their own people then show up for scheduled fights.They have appearance clauses in their contracts which they must fulfill but aside from that the organizations don't randomly test or even have policies for that matter.They are licensed fighters just like boxing and receive all testing from state athletic commissions.They test ONLY pre and post fight.

So Brock, Kimbo and yes Carwin(yes) tested clean. Some big dudes who I would bet are not clean. Just a few of the BIG names who sell some ppv's. Again examples are made so it appears to the public at large to be "legit" (Sherk) but best believe the top guys- or top sellers (most)take banned substances. Look over time the changes Overeem has made. He clean? No way. Or that Cyborg chick? Sexy to me but a bit maculine I would guarantee that she is on. Unquestionably. They pass. The named "stars" have never failed to my knowledge off hand ad WE all know whats up. Takes one to know one. Vitor is great but not exactly a "household name."

They have nailed som BIG ones:

JOSH BARNETT
Caught: 4/22/02, following his TKO victory over Randy Couture at UFC 36.
Tested positive for: Boldenone, Nandrolone, and Fluoxymesterone

TIM SYLVIA
Caught: 10/7/03, following his first-round knockout of Gan McGee at UFC 44.
Tested positive for: Stanozolol

KIMO LEOPOLDO Caught: 8/16/04, following his TKO loss to Ken Shamrock at UFC 48.
Tested positive for: Stanozolol

NATE MARQUARDT
Caught: 8/15/05, following his unanimous decision win over Ivan Salaverry at Ultimate Fight Night 1.
Tested positive for: Nandrolone

KIMO LEOPOLDO AGAIN!!
Caught: 7/20/06, two days before he was scheduled to fight Bas Rutten at WFA: King of the Streets.
Tested positive for: Stanozolol

VITOR BELFORT
Caught: 10/26/06, following his unanimous decision loss to Dan Henderson at PRIDE 32.
Tested positive for: 4-Hydroxytestosterone

PAWEL NASTULA
Caught: 10/26/06, following his submission loss against Josh Barnett at PRIDE 32.
Tested positive for: Nandrolone


STEPHAN BONNAR
Caught: 11/3/06, following his second unanimous decision loss to Forrest Griffin at UFC 62.
Tested positive for: Boldenone

KIT COPE
Caught: 1/25/07, following his submission via strikes loss to Rob McCullough at WEC 25.
Tested positive for: Boldenone

JOHNNIE MORTON
Caught: 6/13/07, following his 38-second knockout loss against Bernard Ackah at Dynamite!! USA.
Tested positive for: Unspecified anabolic steroids. Morton’s pre-fight urine test came back as positive for a very elevated T/E (testosterone) ratio — 83.9, when the average for an athlete is 6.


ROYCE GRACIE
Caught: 6/14/07, following his unanimous decision win over Kazushi Sakuraba at Dynamite!! USA.
Tested positive for: Nandrolone

JORGE ORTIZ
Caught: 6/26/07, following his TKO loss to Jesse Taylor at Total Combat 21.
Tested positive for: Nandrolone

PHIL BARONI
Caught: 7/7/07, following his technical submission loss to Frank Shamrock at Strikeforce: Shamrock vs. Baroni.
Tested positive for: Boldenone and Stanozolol

SEAN SHERK
Caught: 7/19/07, following his unanimous decision win against Hermes Franca at UFC 73.
Tested positive for: Nandrolone

ERMES FRANCA
Caught: 7/19/07, following his unanimous decision loss to Sean Sherk at UFC 73.
Tested positive for: Drostanolone


ANTHONY TORRES
Caught: 10/3/07, following his TKO loss to Jess Liaudin at UFC 75.
Tested positive for: Boldenone. Torres was the first fighter to be caught by a UFC-administered steroid test.

BILL MAHOOD
Caught: 10/15/07, following his submission via rib injury loss to Bobby Southworth at Strikeforce’s first Playboy Mansion show.
Tested positive for: Drostanolone

ADAM SMITH
Caught: 10/17/07, following his unanimous decision loss to Dewey Cooper at Strikeforce’s first Playboy Mansion show.
Tested positive for: Nandrolone and Stanozolol — as well as cocaine and marijuana.

JASON WINTHERS
Caught: 11/19/07, following his TKO loss against Richard Blake at Rebel Fights: Unleashed Fury.
Tested positive for: Stanozolol and the veterinary steroid Trenbolone — as well as methadone and morphine. Sounds like somebody’s been partying with Adam Smith…

RUBEN VILLAREAL
Caught: 11/28/07, following his TKO loss to Jimmy Ambriz at WCO: Kerr vs. Gavin.
Tested positive for: 4-Hydroxytestosterone

DENNIS HALLMAN
Caught: 11/29/07, following his submission win over Jeremiah Metcalf at Strikeforce: Four Men Enter, One Man Survives.
Tested positive for: Drostanolone and Nandrolone

ALEXANDER CRISPIM
Caught: 11/29/07, following his unanimous decision win over Clint Coronel at Strikeforce: Four Men Enter, One Man Survives.
Tested positive for: Desoxymethyltestosterone

CARINA DAMM
Caught: 5/15/08, following her submission win over Sophie Bagherdai at Femme Fatale Fighting 4.
Tested positive for: Nandrolone

ALEXANDRE NOGUEIRA
Caught: 7/7/08, following his TKO loss to Jose Aldo at WEC 34.
Tested positive for: Boldenone

ANTONIO SILVA
Caught: 8/21/08, following his TKO win over Justin Eilers at EliteXC: Unfinished Business.
Tested positive for: Boldenone

EDWIN DEWEES
Caught: 8/21/08, following his TKO loss against Antonio Rogerio Nogueira at Affliction: Banned.
Tested positive for: A massive amount of Nandrolone. The CSAC’s Bill Douglas said that the amount of the steroid in Dewees’ system — 499ng/ml, if you want to get technical — was “hard to explain.”

CHRIS LEBEN
Caught: 11/3/08, following his decision loss to Michael Bisping at UFC 89.
Tested positive for: Stanozolol

KIRILL SIDELNIKOV
Caught: 3/3/09, following his TKO loss to Paul Buentello at Affliction: Day of Reckoning.
Tested positive for: Stanozolol

KEN SHAMROCK
Caught: 3/11/09, following his submission win over super-heavyweight tubbaguts Ross Clifton at WarGods: Valentine’s Eve Massacre.
Tested positive for: 19-Norandrosterone, 19-Noretiocholanolone, and Stanozolol

JOSH BARNETT (Pt. 2)
Caught: 7/21/09, 11 days before he was scheduled to fight Fedor Emelianenko in the main event of Affliction: Trilogy.
Tested positive for: Drostanolone

COLE PROVINCE
Caught: 8/17/09, following his unanimous decision win over Fredson Paixao at WEC 42.
Tested positive for: Methasterone

CHAEL SONNEN
Caught: 9/18/10, following his submission loss to Anderson Silva at UFC 117.
Tested positive for: "A natural steroid"
Punishment: $2,500 fine and a one-year suspension from the CSAC.

VINICIUS QUIEROZ
Caught: 11/2/10, following his submission loss to Rob Broughton at UFC 120.
Tested positive for: Stanozolol

 

[setssipsy345]

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[phreak]

^^^as if this thread couldn't get any worse, now there's spam in it lol

 

[strongrhino]

Dam bro guess ya did your homework! lol. But...Even though they have nailed some- think of how many get away with it. You are correct they get some but we all know that Brock, Overeem, Carwin, Slice, to name a few of the big boys- have gotten away with it. You named quite a few- no doubt but think about the number of fighters in tha game around the world and your list represents a small %. As i stated- examples are always made. They must be so the sport can gain some integrity and athletic commissions sanction bouts. the list does not include appeals which some must have been overturned. I like the Adams guy- cocaine. What an idiot. Reminds me of a boxer Aaron Pryor who would put coke in his water bottle and drink between rounds. How have the heavyweights I named passed their tests when we know they on....Especially Overeem- the topic of this thread?

The "heads up" is their fight date.Pre and post fight tests.They are essentially independent contractors if you will.They sign a contract for either a number of fights or certain length of time.They go off and do their own thing at their own camps with their own people then show up for scheduled fights.They have appearance clauses in their contracts which they must fulfill but aside from that the organizations don't randomly test or even have policies for that matter.They are licensed fighters just like boxing and receive all testing from state athletic commissions.They test ONLY pre and post fight.



They have nailed som BIG ones:

JOSH BARNETT
Caught: 4/22/02, following his TKO victory over Randy Couture at UFC 36.
Tested positive for: Boldenone, Nandrolone, and Fluoxymesterone

TIM SYLVIA
Caught: 10/7/03, following his first-round knockout of Gan McGee at UFC 44.
Tested positive for: Stanozolol

KIMO LEOPOLDO Caught: 8/16/04, following his TKO loss to Ken Shamrock at UFC 48.
Tested positive for: Stanozolol

NATE MARQUARDT
Caught: 8/15/05, following his unanimous decision win over Ivan Salaverry at Ultimate Fight Night 1.
Tested positive for: Nandrolone

KIMO LEOPOLDO AGAIN!!
Caught: 7/20/06, two days before he was scheduled to fight Bas Rutten at WFA: King of the Streets.
Tested positive for: Stanozolol

VITOR BELFORT
Caught: 10/26/06, following his unanimous decision loss to Dan Henderson at PRIDE 32.
Tested positive for: 4-Hydroxytestosterone

PAWEL NASTULA
Caught: 10/26/06, following his submission loss against Josh Barnett at PRIDE 32.
Tested positive for: Nandrolone


STEPHAN BONNAR
Caught: 11/3/06, following his second unanimous decision loss to Forrest Griffin at UFC 62.
Tested positive for: Boldenone

KIT COPE
Caught: 1/25/07, following his submission via strikes loss to Rob McCullough at WEC 25.
Tested positive for: Boldenone

JOHNNIE MORTON
Caught: 6/13/07, following his 38-second knockout loss against Bernard Ackah at Dynamite!! USA.
Tested positive for: Unspecified anabolic steroids. Morton’s pre-fight urine test came back as positive for a very elevated T/E (testosterone) ratio — 83.9, when the average for an athlete is 6.


ROYCE GRACIE
Caught: 6/14/07, following his unanimous decision win over Kazushi Sakuraba at Dynamite!! USA.
Tested positive for: Nandrolone

JORGE ORTIZ
Caught: 6/26/07, following his TKO loss to Jesse Taylor at Total Combat 21.
Tested positive for: Nandrolone

PHIL BARONI
Caught: 7/7/07, following his technical submission loss to Frank Shamrock at Strikeforce: Shamrock vs. Baroni.
Tested positive for: Boldenone and Stanozolol

SEAN SHERK
Caught: 7/19/07, following his unanimous decision win against Hermes Franca at UFC 73.
Tested positive for: Nandrolone

ERMES FRANCA
Caught: 7/19/07, following his unanimous decision loss to Sean Sherk at UFC 73.
Tested positive for: Drostanolone


ANTHONY TORRES
Caught: 10/3/07, following his TKO loss to Jess Liaudin at UFC 75.
Tested positive for: Boldenone. Torres was the first fighter to be caught by a UFC-administered steroid test.

BILL MAHOOD
Caught: 10/15/07, following his submission via rib injury loss to Bobby Southworth at Strikeforce’s first Playboy Mansion show.
Tested positive for: Drostanolone

ADAM SMITH
Caught: 10/17/07, following his unanimous decision loss to Dewey Cooper at Strikeforce’s first Playboy Mansion show.
Tested positive for: Nandrolone and Stanozolol — as well as cocaine and marijuana.

JASON WINTHERS
Caught: 11/19/07, following his TKO loss against Richard Blake at Rebel Fights: Unleashed Fury.
Tested positive for: Stanozolol and the veterinary steroid Trenbolone — as well as methadone and morphine. Sounds like somebody’s been partying with Adam Smith…

RUBEN VILLAREAL
Caught: 11/28/07, following his TKO loss to Jimmy Ambriz at WCO: Kerr vs. Gavin.
Tested positive for: 4-Hydroxytestosterone

DENNIS HALLMAN
Caught: 11/29/07, following his submission win over Jeremiah Metcalf at Strikeforce: Four Men Enter, One Man Survives.
Tested positive for: Drostanolone and Nandrolone

ALEXANDER CRISPIM
Caught: 11/29/07, following his unanimous decision win over Clint Coronel at Strikeforce: Four Men Enter, One Man Survives.
Tested positive for: Desoxymethyltestosterone

CARINA DAMM
Caught: 5/15/08, following her submission win over Sophie Bagherdai at Femme Fatale Fighting 4.
Tested positive for: Nandrolone

ALEXANDRE NOGUEIRA
Caught: 7/7/08, following his TKO loss to Jose Aldo at WEC 34.
Tested positive for: Boldenone

ANTONIO SILVA
Caught: 8/21/08, following his TKO win over Justin Eilers at EliteXC: Unfinished Business.
Tested positive for: Boldenone

EDWIN DEWEES
Caught: 8/21/08, following his TKO loss against Antonio Rogerio Nogueira at Affliction: Banned.
Tested positive for: A massive amount of Nandrolone. The CSAC’s Bill Douglas said that the amount of the steroid in Dewees’ system — 499ng/ml, if you want to get technical — was “hard to explain.”

CHRIS LEBEN
Caught: 11/3/08, following his decision loss to Michael Bisping at UFC 89.
Tested positive for: Stanozolol

KIRILL SIDELNIKOV
Caught: 3/3/09, following his TKO loss to Paul Buentello at Affliction: Day of Reckoning.
Tested positive for: Stanozolol

KEN SHAMROCK
Caught: 3/11/09, following his submission win over super-heavyweight tubbaguts Ross Clifton at WarGods: Valentine’s Eve Massacre.
Tested positive for: 19-Norandrosterone, 19-Noretiocholanolone, and Stanozolol

JOSH BARNETT (Pt. 2)
Caught: 7/21/09, 11 days before he was scheduled to fight Fedor Emelianenko in the main event of Affliction: Trilogy.
Tested positive for: Drostanolone

COLE PROVINCE
Caught: 8/17/09, following his unanimous decision win over Fredson Paixao at WEC 42.
Tested positive for: Methasterone

CHAEL SONNEN
Caught: 9/18/10, following his submission loss to Anderson Silva at UFC 117.
Tested positive for: "A natural steroid"
Punishment: $2,500 fine and a one-year suspension from the CSAC.

VINICIUS QUIEROZ
Caught: 11/2/10, following his submission loss to Rob Broughton at UFC 120.
Tested positive for: Stanozolol

 

[Bionic]

Dam bro guess ya did your homework! lol. But...Even though they have nailed some- think of how many get away with it. You are correct they get some but we all know that Brock, Overeem, Carwin, Slice, to name a few of the big boys- have gotten away with it. You named quite a few- no doubt but think about the number of fighters in tha game around the world and your list represents a small %. As i stated- examples are always made. They must be so the sport can gain some integrity and athletic commissions sanction bouts. the list does not include appeals which some must have been overturned. I like the Adams guy- cocaine. What an idiot. Reminds me of a boxer Aaron Pryor who would put coke in his water bottle and drink between rounds. How have the heavyweights I named passed their tests when we know they on....Especially Overeem- the topic of this thread?

I don't think any of em are on when they are fighting and the smart ones have taken fast-clearing esthers so they test clean before and after. The ones that don't follow the rules get caught and suspended.

 

[BigSwole]

Given the huge change in head size, I'd say growth is a given

Possibly. In my case my head got larger and seemed to change shape from just using AAS.

 

[DoWork]

definetly growth is in the mix.you see in his last fight in strikeforce he still had the puffy face even tho he was ripped to the bone.when he fights in japan he is alot bigger than when he fights in the states because they dont test over in japan.

Ya, I would say lots of HGH for sure. His face is always wicked swollen whenever though. And yea, I have noticed that he is noticeably larger when fighting in Japan.

 

[DoWork]

Ummm. That was a pretty gay video. Didnt see anything amazing there - 135 lb bench i think.

No, ur right, nothing amazing about his physique...Pretty normal if you ask me

 

[AlphaMaleDawg]

Can we please ban the all those that start threads like these. Its completely irrelevant and not consistent with what this board represents. Send this guy elsewhere or be prepared for a slew of similar posts.

why do you get offended by topics like this one? It's fun to speculate what pro athletes are taking

 

[smc252]

So Brock, Kimbo and yes Carwin(yes) tested clean. Some big dudes who I would bet are not clean. Just a few of the BIG names who sell some ppv's. Again examples are made so it appears to the public at large to be "legit" (Sherk) but best believe the top guys- or top sellers (most)take banned substances. Look over time the changes Overeem has made. He clean? No way. Or that Cyborg chick? Sexy to me but a bit maculine I would guarantee that she is on. Unquestionably. They pass. The named "stars" have never failed to my knowledge off hand ad WE all know whats up. Takes one to know one. Vitor is great but not exactly a "household name."

I met Carwin several months before his Lesnar fight, he is no doubt on Test/Deca/GH...etc

I always put it like this; they are professional athletes. If anything helps them out, even the smallest bit, they are going to use it, or else they will be a nobody quick.

 

[stiphy]

thats a lot of information kid1dakota. Hopefully you found that info somewhere and were able to cut and paste, otherwise you have to much time on your hands. Its always interesting to look back and see what substance they were busted for. thanks for doing the leg work.

 

[strongrhino]

For real! Impressive. But Im convinced the "smart ones" like in any sport can and will get away with it. We all know who uses. Its quite obvious. Especially when you see such an extreme metamorphisis over time that would be impossible naturally. They just got the "system" beat. For now...

thats a lot of information kid1dakota. Hopefully you found that info somewhere and were able to cut and paste, otherwise you have to much time on your hands. Its always interesting to look back and see what substance they were busted for. thanks for doing the leg work.