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Anadrol + Dbol = negative gains ?

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Hypothetically lets say a test subject used 25mg Dbol per day (by itself) with good results before. You know, the usual size and strength gains for most athletic people who are middle age and male.

This test subject also used 25mg Anadrol per day (by itself) during another scientific cycle and although he didnt feel good (felt low energy + sick due to common sides) he gained approximately 1/2 pound per day and strength went way up in 30 days.

Are u with me?

So, hypothetically lets say he is now taking 12.5mg Dbol + 12.5mg Anadrol 2x per day during the current scientific experiment for a combined total of 25mg Dbol + 25mg Anadrol per day while using nothing else.

The subject is noticing very little weight gain (maybe 3 pounds in 2 weeks) and his strength has not went up at all, as matter of fact he actually claims he has gotten weaker for the current 2 week science test.

[Lets all assume for simplicity sake his stress levels/diet/training/intensity and sleep patterns are the same for all tests]

WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON!?

Both products are 100% legit, so I must theorize that both these products compete for receptor sites or something?

Anything else I am missing? I am totally stumped




IF anyone has any knowledge or has tried this Adrol + Dbol regimine before, pls post up your results. I am very curious how come 1 + 1 does not equal 2 in this equation
 
I have not taken these in a combination like this before but I know Gavin speaks highly of the two used together so I am not sure why you are experiencing less gains.

A few ideas that come to mind would be your diet and now you may have to up the dosage now that you have taken this before. How much time off did you have between the last cycles?

Are you eating enough?
 
Not that it would matter, but there is no reason to break the A50 in half. Now, you need to let us know the time line of these cycles. If they were done back to back then it might be that the dosage for one or both was just too low becasue he may have went back on too quickly or maybe he never came off. Waiting may have helped or increased dosage as mentioned could also kept the gains coming.

One more thing. I really don't think that 25mgs of Anadrol will do much at all. It was made in a dosage of 50mg for a reason. For an adult male this dose is too low.
 
with all due respect, if one trains with intensity,eats properly, and sleeps enough there is no way to lose strength. you must be over training and not eating enough. i was doing the same thing recently and my gains were weak. i started pounding food and trained less often with more intensity and i exploded in strength and size very quickly.

also, the doses that you are taking of those drugs are weak. Why do it? stick with one or the other. Dbol 50 mg or drol 100mg. why does everything have to be so complicated?

You have to give the drugs a reason to work. go heavy, eat big or be be like the rest of the wannabes.
 
I seriously doubt that those two compounds used together would somehow produce negative gains. If the test subject has no made progress while on these 2 substances, then I would guess something else would be to blame for lack of progress (assuming they are legitimate products as you said).

Something I've wondered about in the past: with liver-toxic subtances such as these, was the test subject taking large amount of liver-strengthening agents, such as Milk thistle, Liv 52, etc? Could it be that the addition of liver protectants could prevent propert liver pass-through?
 
As Magnum stated and I agree, 25mg drol is not enough to elicit a response in most users. They are made in 50-75mg tabs because they do not bind very well to the receptor and you need a whopping dose to be effective.
 
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Ok, here's the answers to some of your guys questions.

I suggested my friend use the A50 at a lower dose of 25mg for the A50 ONLY cycle becuase most people who respond to Anadrol gain on average 1 pound per day while using the standard 50mg dose- only then to lose 99% of it when they stop taking it. Hence, the 25mg/day Dosing regimine in his first cycle on hopes to gain less and hopefully keep a little more.

Good news was I was correct in my theory, at the lower dose he did gain 1/2 pound per day for 30 days. Bad news is since he didnt follow it up with any other AAS as I suggested, he lost all of it as well (even the extra creatine, glutamine, protein, and other supps didnt help much to keep any of it when he came off).

He has only done a handful of cycles. There should be no receptor oversaturation or his body being "used to it" like some of us long-term HRT users experience.

There was at least 2 months of time off betwen the A50 ONLY cycle and the A50+Dbol cycle. Possibly even 3 months. He said his natural test levels bounced back within a few weeks after the A50 only and he still had great libido and wanted sex as much as he ever did, so looks like testicular shutdown was not an issue with him.

The only thing that u guys suggest of which I didnt think of, maybe he is overtraining. I will see if I can talk him into a couple days off per week and see if that makes a difference.

thanks for the input guys, if u got anymore...

:)

everyone have a fun + safe weekend
 
I am no expert but 2-3 months off is not that long so that could have something to do with the low doses not working as well so soon.
 

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