Any added benefit to GHRP-6, CJC-1295, AND GHRH?

[myosin]

I believe Dat said that most CJC-1295 coming out of China is really GHRH, but I have a source that sells all three, so I am ASSUMING the CJC is the real deal.

Is there any added benefit to running all three together?

 

[MrCyp]

I wondered that too. Real cjc will keep igf levels constantly elevated and I think that is what Dat was saying is not good. Same reason why large Gh shots arent as prefered as smaller more frequent b/c smaller more frequent creates more pluses which males want more.

 

[DatBtrue]

I believe Dat said that most CJC-1295 coming out of China is really GHRH, but I have a source that sells all three, so I am ASSUMING the CJC is the real deal.

Is there any added benefit to running all three together?

Yes.

Keep in mind that there is a limit to how much GH you can release in a single pulse. The pool of GH store is composed of both complete GH and pro-GH. By pro-GH I mean not fully made.

With adequate nutritional state the body can quickly assemble pro-GH and synthesize more pro-GH forms & fragments. This can be accomplished within a 3 hour time frame.

Back to your question.

You can use a base of CJC-1295 which you would administer twice a week in whatever amount. It could be a lower dose such as 1mg or higher amounts.

You would then administer the non-CJC forms of GHRH (which are native GHRH, sermorelin & modified GRF(1-29) w/ the GHRP of your choice (GHRP-6, GHRP-2, Hexarelin) multiple times a day when you want a pulse.

So the answer to your question is really YES. Just put a little thought into it the way you would if you used a long-estered test and dosed non-estered forms more frequently w/ an oral on top of that base.

I know you are not like this... but some people seem to have a tendency to just stack everything together thinking more is better.... so I wanted to underscore the difference between simply saying YES to your question and "YES here's how..."

 

[T TOTAL]

Top Man

As always DatBtrue quick to respond with a good informative answer as opposed to a simple yes or no, which often begs another question. Reps to you Dat

 

[myosin]

Big help

Thanks for the help Dat.

Upon further examination/clarification, turns out my source has Sermorelin/GRF(1-29) but NOT GHRH, (they say GHRH is illegal in China- perhaps the CJC coming out is still really GHRH but maybe it's less expensive to produce and labeled as CJC). This is still fine with me, as Dat mentioned above, the GRF will still "cover the bases" in this regard.

Thanks, Dat- I do TRY to take an educated approach and take a lot of time to decide what I place/research in my rat, (but I'm still a relative "newbie" in the area of Peptides and the like so I'm sure to make mistakes).

 

[DatBtrue]

...they say GHRH is illegal in China

Welcome to the bullshit.

I don't think you really understand GHRH so here goes:

Growth Hormone Releasing Hormone (GHRH) is what naturally occurs in the body. It is 44 amino acids long. I am using it at the moment at 200mcg per dose.

Sermorelin is the drug name for GRF(1-29). This is GHRH (as described above) w/ the last 15 amino acids removed because they have no biological value. Thus it is Growth hormone Releasing Factor amino acids 1 thru 29.

Now if you modify the above GRF(1-29) by replacing vulnerable amino acids with less vulnerable amino acids you end up with derivatives. One derivative is the one where 4 amino acids were exchanged. I refer to that as Modified GRF(1-29).

Now if you take modified GRF(1-29) and add a "drug affinity complex" to it so it will bind to albumin in plasma. That is CJC-1295.

 

[MrCyp]

Dat didnt you say males want more frequent pulses instead of constantly elevated igf levels like when you take a large gh shot? Wouldnt true cjc1295 keep igf levels constantly elevated and thats not what we want? How would that be any diff than if one were to use Large Gh shots and then create pulses with 1-29/ghrp6 throughout the day?

Yes.

Keep in mind that there is a limit to how much GH you can release in a single pulse. The pool of GH store is composed of both complete GH and pro-GH. By pro-GH I mean not fully made.

With adequate nutritional state the body can quickly assemble pro-GH and synthesize more pro-GH forms & fragments. This can be accomplished within a 3 hour time frame.

Back to your question.

You can use a base of CJC-1295 which you would administer twice a week in whatever amount. It could be a lower dose such as 1mg or higher amounts.

You would then administer the non-CJC forms of GHRH (which are native GHRH, sermorelin & modified GRF(1-29) w/ the GHRP of your choice (GHRP-6, GHRP-2, Hexarelin) multiple times a day when you want a pulse.

So the answer to your question is really YES. Just put a little thought into it the way you would if you used a long-estered test and dosed non-estered forms more frequently w/ an oral on top of that base.

I know you are not like this... but some people seem to have a tendency to just stack everything together thinking more is better.... so I wanted to underscore the difference between simply saying YES to your question and "YES here's how..."

 

[myosin]

Good Stuff

Welcome to the bullshit.

I don't think you really understand GHRH so here goes:

Growth Hormone Releasing Hormone (GHRH) is what naturally occurs in the body. It is 44 amino acids long. I am using it at the moment at 200mcg per dose.

Sermorelin is the drug name for GRF(1-29). This is GHRH (as described above) w/ the last 15 amino acids removed because they have no biological value. Thus it is Growth hormone Releasing Factor amino acids 1 thru 29.

Now if you modify the above GRF(1-29) by replacing vulnerable amino acids with less vulnerable amino acids you end up with derivatives. One derivative is the one where 4 amino acids were exchanged. I refer to that as Modified GRF(1-29).

Now if you take modified GRF(1-29) and add a "drug affinity complex" to it so it will bind to albumin in plasma. That is CJC-1295.

Thanks, Dat- I'm good with the physiology but not the bio-chem, I love learning this stuff. I'm SLOWLY learning to better examine the amino acid sequence and it's importance. Appreciate it my friend.

 

[cvictorg]

Would taking true CJC 1295 (modified GRF(1-29) with DAC) 2x/wk at a dose of 2-3mg (total weekly dose of 4-6mg) be sufficient to maintain adequate levels of gh without using modified GRF(1-29) and GHRP-6?

Yes.

Keep in mind that there is a limit to how much GH you can release in a single pulse. The pool of GH store is composed of both complete GH and pro-GH. By pro-GH I mean not fully made.

With adequate nutritional state the body can quickly assemble pro-GH and synthesize more pro-GH forms & fragments. This can be accomplished within a 3 hour time frame.

Back to your question.

You can use a base of CJC-1295 which you would administer twice a week in whatever amount. It could be a lower dose such as 1mg or higher amounts.

You would then administer the non-CJC forms of GHRH (which are native GHRH, sermorelin & modified GRF(1-29) w/ the GHRP of your choice (GHRP-6, GHRP-2, Hexarelin) multiple times a day when you want a pulse.

So the answer to your question is really YES. Just put a little thought into it the way you would if you used a long-estered test and dosed non-estered forms more frequently w/ an oral on top of that base.

I know you are not like this... but some people seem to have a tendency to just stack everything together thinking more is better.... so I wanted to underscore the difference between simply saying YES to your question and "YES here's how..."