Any body else that’s roughing it out with low test levels at the moment?

[The Wolf]

Ok its been maybe 8 months since I last did a cycle and the only reason why I didn’t go for trt is because I was toying with the idea of getting the wife pregnant again.

Man I feel like shit! I have never felt so lazy and unenergetic in my life! The only good ting is my balls have gone a lot bigger, I even forgot they were that big! Well maybe not but compared to when I was on the juice, hell yeah!

Sometimes I go the gym and don’t even want to lift anything. I see sexy girls and for the first time in my life I feel like a monk or a saint or something. I’m going to do a cycle in march, my favorite Test and tren.

This is another message to kids before they think of starting to juice and I thought I also share this with some of you bros that are in the same boat as me. Man I am missing this test, should I just get some blood work now and just inject some test or should I be patient and wait until march?

Thanks for reading my problems.

 

[Bigfatdog]

go for it

I know what you mean. I'm on HRT due to a surgery. I got back into lifting because of it. Thank God. I was off and on last year. Just did 2 mths off. It sucked. At my age (51) and after 19 years of Vicodin for pain mgmt. because of a motorcycle wreck, my HPTA is just fucked. I'm considering just blasting and crusing for the rest of my life.

Maybe you could use EQ instead of Tren and still take care of business with Mama. Throw in a couple of vials of HCG during cycle to stop atrophy. Anyway, good luck with whatever you decide. I'm sure Mama will support your decision.

My vote: GET ON. LIFE IS TOO SHORT TO BE SOFT AND FAT AND FEEL LIKE SHIT!

 

[engbulldog]

i feel your pain Bro, had blood work done before christmas and it came back super low, 95 was the magic # for me @ 35 yrs old and my cycles never were that large compaired to others but oh well went to an endo the other day and had more blood work done I go back this friday to see what he does!!!

 

[jay_dub]

Shit I'm only 23, been off for 2.5 months. I was tired as hell last month, but my lethargy is now almost completely gone. As far as energy levels go, I'm doing great. My sex drive is SHIT though. Never been worse. First time I've experienced such a lack of libido. I've always basically gone by the rule of on=off too. The last couple cycles I ran though was a 12 weeker, followed by a month off, and then back on for 12 weeks. I think only being off for a month between the 2 cycles instead of 3 months is what is making this go around so much more difficult. My body never recovered.

Just got my blood levels sent in, I'm sure my results are going to be pretty bad as far as my test levels go. We'll see. My g/f is not too happy about it, but I'm going to ride it out for at least another month.

 

[minister]

Ok its been maybe 8 months since I last did a cycle and the only reason why I didn’t go for trt is because I was toying with the idea of getting the wife pregnant again.

Man I feel like shit! I have never felt so lazy and unenergetic in my life! The only good ting is my balls have gone a lot bigger, I even forgot they were that big! Well maybe not but compared to when I was on the juice, hell yeah!

Sometimes I go the gym and don’t even want to lift anything. I see sexy girls and for the first time in my life I feel like a monk or a saint or something. I’m going to do a cycle in march, my favorite Test and tren.

This is another message to kids before they think of starting to juice and I thought I also share this with some of you bros that are in the same boat as me. Man I am missing this test, should I just get some blood work now and just inject some test or should I be patient and wait until march?

Thanks for reading my problems.

Just curious, Did you do a proper PCT after last cycle, and Was your last cycle tren,test? because any of those nor-19 products like tren or nandrolone cause chaos on your libido by raising the levels of prolactin. Prolactin causes more trouble than estrogen for us, and it can stay elevated for a long time and maybe that's why your testes came back but your sex drive didn't. Maybe you should look into doing another PCT, with HCG, nolvadex and look into getting some cabergoline(Dostinex) and add it to the cycle, the stuff is phenomenal for prolactin management. If you are doing tren in next cycle I would say to add the dostinex to cycle,it helps so much during cycle and afterwards for proper recovery. Do the dostinex in very small doses 0.5 mgs twice a week, that is all you need. Hope that helps. God bless you bro.

 

[The Wolf]

Just curious, Did you do a proper PCT after last cycle, and Was your last cycle tren,test? because any of those nor-19 products like tren or nandrolone cause chaos on your libido by raising the levels of prolactin. Prolactin causes more trouble than estrogen for us, and it can stay elevated for a long time and maybe that's why your testes came back but your sex drive didn't. Maybe you should look into doing another PCT, with HCG, nolvadex and look into getting some cabergoline(Dostinex) and add it to the cycle, the stuff is phenomenal for prolactin management. If you are doing tren in next cycle I would say to add the dostinex to cycle,it helps so much during cycle and afterwards for proper recovery. Do the dostinex in very small doses 0.5 mgs twice a week, that is all you need. Hope that helps. God bless you bro.

No bro my last cycle was test, dbol and boldenone. I ran a full pct which contained hcg, clomid and nolvadex. The doctor told me that my reason for having low test is because I suprresed my natrual test for too long.
I have had high prolactin levels in the past from deca but I know that this is not the case now. Thanks for your advice on dostinex, I will look into it

 

[The Wolf]

I know what you mean. I'm on HRT due to a surgery. I got back into lifting because of it. Thank God. I was off and on last year. Just did 2 mths off. It sucked. At my age (51) and after 19 years of Vicodin for pain mgmt. because of a motorcycle wreck, my HPTA is just fucked. I'm considering just blasting and crusing for the rest of my life.

Maybe you could use EQ instead of Tren and still take care of business with Mama. Throw in a couple of vials of HCG during cycle to stop atrophy. Anyway, good luck with whatever you decide. I'm sure Mama will support your decision.

My vote: GET ON. LIFE IS TOO SHORT TO BE SOFT AND FAT AND FEEL LIKE SHIT!

Thanks, the reason Im not on is because the doctor said that if I want to get the wife pregnant I better stay off, with low test levels I can still get her prgnant if my lh, fsh have recovered somewhat. Even if I throw in a little bit of test, it will upset the balance so Im told.
Oh well, I will go for a routine check up in febuary and if my livers ok which it should be in perfect condition, I will go for it. You right lifes to short to be feeling like a 90 year old in 34 year olds body!

 

[sakguy]

I know what you mean. I'm on HRT due to a surgery. I got back into lifting because of it. Thank God. I was off and on last year. Just did 2 mths off. It sucked. At my age (51) and after 19 years of Vicodin for pain mgmt. because of a motorcycle wreck, my HPTA is just fucked. I'm considering just blasting and crusing for the rest of my life.

Maybe you could use EQ instead of Tren and still take care of business with Mama. Throw in a couple of vials of HCG during cycle to stop atrophy. Anyway, good luck with whatever you decide. I'm sure Mama will support your decision.

My vote: GET ON. LIFE IS TOO SHORT TO BE SOFT AND FAT AND FEEL LIKE SHIT!

Exactly the decision I made after I had a real bad problem with my HPTA. I weighed out the consequences and realized my quality of life is important to me. Having low test was literally ruining my life in more ways than one.

 

[mitochondria]

im tellin ya i think ya permantly messed up your lh from that hcg dose, thats stuff is very serious, 20x more serious than 3gs of test

 

[Trainwreck80]

I've been there but now I'm on HRT. Best decision I ever made! I feel your pain though, hang in there. However, many guys get their wives pregnant on HRT. Some docs add a small amount of clomid. I've heard some use HMG, not HCG. Some don't do anything differently as long as their on HCG and it works. Look into it.

 

[KillerStack]

For someone not wanting to go on testosterone yet feels his endo production is low I wonder how a low dose of HCG (say 200iu 2x weekly) and Nolva at maybe 5-10mg/day would work out? The HCG shouldn't hurt the leydig cells at that dosage and Nolva at that dosage was shown to be effective for increasing test in one study.

 

[FRKNHUGE]

i love how doctors tell men that even low doses of test will make you in essence sterile, its bullshit. an old member here thought he was in the clear as he ram 2g test for quite a long time and poof, 2months after his wife got off the pill they were pregnant
tell ur doc hes full of shit and do what u want to do, if ur meant to knock the old lady up, itlll happen.
frk

 

[The Wolf]

i love how doctors tell men that even low doses of test will make you in essence sterile, its bullshit. an old member here thought he was in the clear as he ram 2g test for quite a long time and poof, 2months after his wife got off the pill they were pregnant
tell ur doc hes full of shit and do what u want to do, if ur meant to knock the old lady up, itlll happen.
frk

I understand what your saying but I have been through this the last time I got my wife pregnant. I was suffering from azoospermia, zero sperm and the endo just told me to stay off and keep doing bloodwork and sperm tests, mind you I was on decca as well as test. A few months later after staying off and I had 90 million soldiers

I understand about the old member being 2grm test but I guess everyones body works differently. I think Im easily prone to azoospermia but Im so gratefull that I have my son and to be honest Im not that bothered about having another baby, if it will happen it will happen.
Its all good.

 

[Norbert]

Hi Wolf
get your blood work done !! i was in the same boat. if you feel like that after 8 month off. you maybe never recover from low test level.
thats what my doc told me and put me on HRT 400mg cyp every week.

 

[The Wolf]

Hi Wolf
get your blood work done !! i was in the same boat. if you feel like that after 8 month off. you maybe never recover from low test level.
thats what my doc told me and put me on HRT 400mg cyp every week.

400 mg p.w, hrt? serious bro?

 

[KillerStack]

400 mg p.w, hrt? serious bro?

Sounds like the doc is a quack.

 

[njpooldude]

Sounds like the doc is a quack.

Yea it does..lol or the doc and him are buddies from highschool
your hrt is my blast dose

 

[King-kong]

I am no fan of most docs. However, the right endocrinologist will help you out. I have 2 wonderful boys after being in the same exact boat as you.
This doc was in Philadelphia.

 

[jalsmiley]

i love how doctors tell men that even low doses of test will make you in essence sterile, its bullshit. an old member here thought he was in the clear as he ram 2g test for quite a long time and poof, 2months after his wife got off the pill they were pregnant
tell ur doc hes full of shit and do what u want to do, if ur meant to knock the old lady up, itlll happen.
frk

after 3 weeks of 400mg of test i shot a ZERO sperm count

 

[Pekkerwood]

Wolf:

I took a "forced" year off due to health issues. Cold Turkey, from Test, Tren, HGH, to nothing. It took about 9 months for my test levels to get somewhere around 400.

I think now is a good time to get your "baseline" tests to keep so when and if you go back on you have something to compare with so you can monitor the effects on your body.

I am on TRT currently and do feel better, more sex drive, etc. BTW my doctor owns a fertility clinic and asked me if that were a consideration. He "modifies" treatment if it is to spare LH but I never delved into what changes he makes.