Best brands you have ever used.

[ALLEX]

We are naturally attracted to brands. It's the same with clothes etc. The quality could be the same but the brand stands out. I am not saying most pharm grade isn't better but this is very true. I guarantee 100% if I had 1 primo pharm grade amp and 1 ug vial of primo both with the same oil inside guys would pick the pharm garde amp as the best. This is nothing to do with me being a rep but merely the truth. I couldn't care less what sponsor people use but I know this to be fact for most people... me included. I still look at what pharm grade amps to get even though I know none are better than accurately dosed ug gear. Look at my list nearly all the orals are pharm grade too so it's not like I don't discount some difference in certain things.

Sure, but if there's one thing everyone says they aren't getting good these days is dbol. Maybe drol too...

But you'll only know if you have tried one of the legendary orals of the past. And most youngsters haven't.

These famous drugs aren't simply stronger. They have more of the good effects and less of the bad ones. On good test sometimes you have a hard on few minutes after injecting it, even in small doses.

I'll probably die without figuring out the mystery around these things.

 

[jazilla]

Oxide and Endosyn were my favorite UGLs of the past - but I'm a hoarder and have tons of their items still. Had good results with Dragon Pharma as well. But I prefer to buy HG items whenever possible.

ICN test E
Brit Dispense 5mg dbol
Abbott test suspension
Genotropin pens

Those are my favorite.

 

[MightyJohn]

Interesting. I've heard of Shree but never used anything from them. If their drol is equal to hemos, they must make good stuff.

Only DROL other then Hemos that I couldn't handle 2 a day..headaches, flulike feeling, eyes burn etc(also burn/bitter if You let them dissolve)

Weight shoots right up...all other brands 2, 3, 4/day....ehh, feel a little fuller, that's it

 

[jaydog25]

eq-fort dodge
Test.legion or pro labs ( 2006-7)
Tren a-pro labs

 

[KillerStack]

Sure, but if there's one thing everyone says they aren't getting good these days is dbol. Maybe drol too...

But you'll only know if you have tried one of the legendary orals of the past. And most youngsters haven't.

These famous drugs aren't simply stronger. They have more of the good effects and less of the bad ones. On good test sometimes you have a hard on few minutes after injecting it, even in small doses.

I'll probably die without figuring out the mystery around these things.

The explanation to the mystery is that whatever we used in the good old days, especially our virgin cycle had amazing effects simply because we were fresh. New to steroids as well as young bodies. My first drug was Akrihin dbol and if I could get it now I'd prefer it, even if just for sentimental reasons. Then came Naposim, Bionabol, British Disp, Methandon etc. All worked great but Akrihin were "best"

I've gotten good dbol recently. Will get a bottle of Hubei next week and they are good.

 

[airagee23]

eq-fort dodge

Test.legion or pro labs ( 2006-7)

Tren a-pro labs

Some good ole legion dominate!

 

[TheRoid]

Only DROL other then Hemos that I couldn't handle 2 a day..headaches, flulike feeling, eyes burn etc(also burn/bitter if You let them dissolve)

Weight shoots right up...all other brands 2, 3, 4/day....ehh, feel a little fuller, that's it

Have you used any recent batch? So far you're pretty much the only one I've ever seen talking about their Drol. Thnx

 

[ALLEX]

The explanation to the mystery is that whatever we used in the good old days, especially our virgin cycle had amazing effects simply because we were fresh.

Not the case at all...

I still get dura, deca, equifort and they are as good as ever, stronger with fewer side effects.

The compounding var I used was 3 years ago.

Every brand of viagra from the pharmacy here gives me headaches. The Paraguayan one called Pramil that I get in the black market works incredibly well with barely any side effects.

The "old days" argument is easy to use when we're talking Ciba dbol, because it's not around these days for us to compare, but it holds no water when it's stuff we still have today.

 

[LATS]

Ok.. I'll play ... I'm just going to state those brands I have used and thought were great.. Just because a source or brand is not mention with a product doesn't mean it's bad it just means I have no experience with it..

TESOSTERONE -bio tech, Oxford, genotec, PHARMACOM, viking , ADpharma, toraxx... ( all have been great and Id compare them to any human grade IVE used years ago in terms of quality and potency)
DECA- Norma Hellas , TORAXX, biotech..
NPP- GENOTEC, Pharmacom , viking..
Eq- biotech pharmacom
Primo - pharmacom, Genotec, toraxx viking biotech
Tbol- genotec, pharmacom, Toraxx
Dbol- IP GEAR ( best I ever used)
Winstrol -IP GEAR
TREN - biotech, genotec

In terms of hg I liked irani test amps and omnas in the day.. But honestly many of the Ugs are equal in terms of potency and quality these days.. Many Ugs like PHARMACOM are produced in quality labs.. So searching for legit human grade just isn't worth it many times..

 

[Alzadosghost]

I misread the post.

 

[Vision]

I'm going back to early 90's

Fort Dodge Bold
B.M. Nandrolone Deca India
Anabolex Dbol Dominican republic
Sust organon Portugal
Fina kits

 

[MR. BMJ]

Yea, I agree with the notion that properly dosed UG will yield the same effects as pharm gear. I didn't mention many of the UG's I've tried because most are private.

That said, many years back, I did like products from Supra (Test/NPP/Mast/Deca), Alpha-Omega/Black Label (different tests/NPP), Syrus labs in Canada (test/NPP), Tokkyo 10mg Winstrol tabs and 75mg Adrol, Reforvit B was one of my favorites due to price and availability at the time, Mexican Sustanon and Polish Omnadrens, Spectro-Omega up in Canada also had good products at first.

I should note that I tried TBOL from Biotech back in March/April for a month, and I liked it better than RediCats Paperturin many years back (though RC was awesome too). These are my only 2 experiences with the compound.

My favorite test Cyp was from Steris, though I've had UG Cyp equally as good.

Enanthate...hell, not sure I want to go there, too many to list....I did like Schein, Mexican Primoteston 250, and many UG's.

I never got to try the old Mexican 2902 Syntex Anadrols

My favorite test Suspension was from Steris too.

Test Prop....probably from UG's.

Eq....too many to list for UG's. For vet grade, I liked Ultragan 100mg from Denkall though.


Anyway......there is more, I have to jam as I am at work

 

[KillerStack]

Not the case at all...

I still get dura, deca, equifort and they are as good as ever, stronger with fewer side effects.

The compounding var I used was 3 years ago.

Every brand of viagra from the pharmacy here gives me headaches. The Paraguayan one called Pramil that I get in the black market works incredibly well with barely any side effects.

The "old days" argument is easy to use when we're talking Ciba dbol, because it's not around these days for us to compare, but it holds no water when it's stuff we still have today.

People notice differences between brand names and authentic licenced generics all the time. Talking about all types of drugs. I've read that sometimes the brand name and generic is made on the same freaking line in the same factory and people still notice differences and have their favorites.
I've queried pharmacists several times recently to get their opinion on why people notice differences between different brands of diklofenac, some seem to cause stomach pain and others not. But they have no real explanation, some offered that perhaps the you're allergic to the dye in one tablet and not the other. But they should be the same, the raws are probably coming from the exact same manufacturer.

Perhaps things like tablet binders make a difference, or perhaps it's placebo.
Though I don't buy your idea that the steroid raws today are vastly different somehow to what was available in the past.
Placebo can be strong, simply the color of a tablet can affect perceived response.

BMJ. 1996 Dec 21; 313(7072): 1624–1626.
PMCID: PMC2359128
Effect of colour of drugs: systematic review of perceived effect of drugs and of their effectiveness.
A. J. de Craen, P. J. Roos, A. Leonard de Vries, and J. Kleijnen

Abstract

OBJECTIVE: To assess the impact of the colour of a drug's formulation on its perceived effect and its effectiveness and to examine whether antidepressant drugs available in the Netherlands are different in colour from hypnotic, sedative, and anxiolytic drugs. DESIGN: Systematic review of 12 published studies. Six studies examined the perceived action of different coloured drugs and six the influence of the colour of a drug on its effectiveness. The colours of samples of 49 drugs affecting the central nervous system were assessed using a colour atlas. MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES: Perceived stimulant action versus perceived depressant action of colour of drugs; the trials that assessed the effect of drugs in different colours were done in patients with different diseases and had different outcome measures. RESULTS: The studies on perceived action of coloured drugs showed that red, yellow, and orange are associated with a stimulant effect, while blue and green are related to a tranquillising effect. The trials that assessed the impact of the colour of drugs on their effectiveness showed inconsistent differences between colours. The quality of the methods of these trials was variable. Hypnotic, sedative, and anxiolytic drugs were more likely than antidepressants to be green, blue, or purple. CONCLUSIONS: Colours affect the perceived action of a drug and seem to influence the effectiveness of a drug. Moreover, a relation exists between the colouring of drugs that affect the central nervous system and the indications for which they are used. Research contributing to a better understanding of the effect of the colour of drugs is warranted.

 

[VinnyG]

We grew up with duras, decas and hemos being OTC and dirt cheap. As it got close to summer (Nov, December) we'd all get jacked as fuck then forget it all and get small when school began by the end of February.

Zambon Winstrol was a rare sight.

Duras and decas are getting harder to get nowadays. Last year you could find them for R$12-15. Now the guy wants R$35. No way I'm paying that... Haven't seen real hemos in a while. Equifort is still OTC at the vet place. There's one a walking distance. 50mg/ml so it's a pain.

just fake some receipts or buy its not hard[/lang]

 

[ALLEX]

People notice differences between brand names and authentic licenced generics all the time. Talking about all types of drugs. I've read that sometimes the brand name and generic is made on the same freaking line in the same factory and people still notice differences and have their favorites.
I've queried pharmacists several times recently to get their opinion on why people notice differences between different brands of diklofenac, some seem to cause stomach pain and others not. But they have no real explanation, some offered that perhaps the you're allergic to the dye in one tablet and not the other. But they should be the same, the raws are probably coming from the exact same manufacturer.

Perhaps things like tablet binders make a difference, or perhaps it's placebo.
Though I don't buy your idea that the steroid raws today are vastly different somehow to what was available in the past.
Placebo can be strong, simply the color of a tablet can affect perceived response.

I'm well aware of that.

Now, take this one:

Brand name Viagra straight from the pharmacy. Fairly expensive. Blue... Gives me headaches and a flushed face.

**broken link removed**

Generic Paraguayan Viagra, trade name Pramil. Dirt cheap. Sold illegally by the hot dog or the ice cream guy downtown. No headaches, barely a flushed face and stronger effects. Also blue.

Also, pink, no name cialis from India was 500% better than brand name cialis. How do I figure that one out?

 

[ALLEX]

just fake some receipts or buy its not hard

You're Brazilian, right? By "receipts" you probably mean "scripts".

See, I know that, but I'm not the one to break law upon law, do you understand? I used to get it straight from the pharmacy with no script, but the guy gets a cut, I understand that. Thing is that now all of them want too much money and I ain't paying that for 250mg of test.

 

[KillerStack]

I'm well aware of that.

Now, take this one:

Brand name Viagra straight from the pharmacy. Fairly expensive. Blue... Gives me headaches and a flushed face.

Generic Paraguayan Viagra, trade name Pramil. Dirt cheap. Sold illegally by the hot dog or the ice cream guy downtown. No headaches, barely a flushed face and stronger effects. Also blue.

Also, pink, no name cialis from India was 500% better than brand name cialis. How do I figure that one out?

Can't explain it but that's how it is with all drugs, people have their favorites. Viagra is the original and the name achieved cult status but you think the cheap generic is better - applied to steroids that could mean Ciba Dianabol and Negma Parabolan could be inferior to say Alpha Pharma copies of those legendary drugs

 

[KillerStack]

You're Brazilian, right? By "receipts" you probably mean "scripts".

See, I know that, but I'm not the one to break law upon law, do you understand? I used to get it straight from the pharmacy with no script, but the guy gets a cut, I understand that. Thing is that now all of them want too much money and I ain't paying that for 250mg of test.

How expensive is the test with all the added cuts?
Personally I would pay premium for convenience and assured legitimacy. How much would the Hemogenin be from the pharmacy if you were assured it was 100% legit? Do the pharmacies there sell fakes like they do in some countries?

 

[Matsuo Munefusa]

I'm well aware of that.

Now, take this one:

Brand name Viagra straight from the pharmacy. Fairly expensive. Blue... Gives me headaches and a flushed face.

**broken link removed**

Generic Paraguayan Viagra, trade name Pramil. Dirt cheap. Sold illegally by the hot dog or the ice cream guy downtown. No headaches, barely a flushed face and stronger effects. Also blue.

Also, pink, no name cialis from India was 500% better than brand name cialis. How do I figure that one out?

the UG dick drugs are probably underdosed (ie lack of headache which is a side effect that presents at higher doses) - so they feel better because you're not getting hit with the headache, stuffy nose, etc when you dose higher those drugs.

 

[Elvia1023]

I agree with everything KS has stated in this thread. There are amazing to bad everything and it's not defined by pharm or ug grade. 101 reasons why guys like certain brands better and I and KS went into some details in prior posts. Then there are underdosed things or the powder is simply different. Sdrol is a good example of this as it's quality varies so much and there are meant to be different "versions". But to think steroids were better in the the past is just ridiculous. Yes as a percentage they were better as there weren't all the underdosed and fake products out then. But steroid powder hasn't suddenly gotten worse regardless if it's from a pharm or ug source. Guys will be saying the same in 20 years regarding today.

So many factors come into things from fillers, toxins, brand, packaging, colour and of course purity. I have used amazing pharm grade and UG products that were better than the other. I have used pharm grade cialis and viagra and UG and the UG was better but not all of them. I have used a lot of cialis brands and many were better than Eli Lilly and Cipla. I think the main reason for that is them being overdosed. I don't respond well to viagra but I imagine many may have a fav for that because it was over/underdosed... over if you respond well and under for guys who usually get bad sides from taking higher.