blood test results 11 weeks winny (oral)

[mrcat]

He didn't run any liver function, not sure why. BMP was all normal except glucose (I'm type 2 and it was high).

cholesterol 279
triglyceride 466
ldl 158
vldl 93
chol/hdl 10
ldl/hdl 5.6
HDLC3 28

All were high except HDL which was low. Do you think winny would cause all of the cholesterol? The doc wants to use chol pills at some point. I'm a little iffy, I've heard they lower testosterone. That would be OK on cycle, but off, I'd rather take my chances if thats the case.

TSH was 1.13 >>>> .54 to 5.70 is normal

That is normal, but do you think I would benefit from a small increase, or leave it alone? I'm not sure on how much TSH changes during the day. Is this a constant level?

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Presonally

I would go on statins and start taking fish oils and lower your dietary fat. Your doctor is right, listen to him. Your bloodwork is horriible.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

BP

What is your blood pressure

 

[Boo]

We need a base line . . . what was your blood work like prior to the 11 week cycle? Phil is correct it is very poor, we ( as as users ) need to get blood work done prior to starting a cycle and at several points during.

Boo

 

[SFINX]

I would go on statins and start taking fish oils and lower your dietary fat. Your doctor is right, listen to him. Your bloodwork is horriible.

In addition to throwing the winny out of the window or selling it to some fool who wants to use that.

 

[BitsOBrawn]

11 weeks of winny? Of course that's the cause. Winny is terrible. Take some niacin regularly and your HDL will increase.

 

[lookingforanedge]

I would go on statins and start taking fish oils and lower your dietary fat. Your doctor is right, listen to him. Your bloodwork is horriible.

Phil,

What brand of Fish oils do you suggest.

I know you have said in the past that a pharma grade and ultra purified or else you run the risk of free radical damage.

I am on fish oils now but want it to be a positive not a negative.

 

[mrcat]

What is your blood pressure

post cycle was 140/95 , pre was 120/80.
I'm going to stop at the drug store and get it checked this week.

BASELINE blood work. From recolection was:

cholesterol 210
triglyceride 220

Triglyceride is affected greatly on how much my blood sugar is under control. It was under less control with the new bloodwork. That was the reason for the visit. Meds were changed etc.

Diet was pretty bad at times fat wise. The problem is before I started on log, I couldn't eat any carbs and was eating a ton of fat.

I think he is going to run some more blood work in a month. I hope to still be clean, but plan to start a var/GH cycle soon. Then test/deca in the fall/winter. I'm not getting any younger and hate to take too much time off.

Anyone know if or how much the cholesterol meds drop test? I'm really consired about that. They might make you live longer, but if your weak and scroony what the point....

 

[Skip]

I am scared to see your liver values after 11 weeks of winny. Your cholesterol is bad enough, for sure.

Skip

 

[PHIL HERNON]

YES

BARRY SEARS OR DR. SERRANO. I HAVE SERRANOS PRETTY CHEAP IF YOU LIKE.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

YES..........

post cycle was 140/95 , pre was 120/80.
I'm going to stop at the drug store and get it checked this week.

BASELINE blood work. From recolection was:

cholesterol 210
triglyceride 220

Triglyceride is affected greatly on how much my blood sugar is under control. It was under less control with the new bloodwork. That was the reason for the visit. Meds were changed etc.

Diet was pretty bad at times fat wise. The problem is before I started on log, I couldn't eat any carbs and was eating a ton of fat.

I think he is going to run some more blood work in a month. I hope to still be clean, but plan to start a var/GH cycle soon. Then test/deca in the fall/winter. I'm not getting any younger and hate to take too much time off.

Anyone know if or how much the cholesterol meds drop test? I'm really consired about that. They might make you live longer, but if your weak and scroony what the point....

PEOPLE WHO ARE WEAK AND SCROONY REALLY HAVE NO REASON TO LIVE...........I SEE YOUR POINT.

 

[BigWilly]

flush free niacin
oatmeal and metamucil first thing AM with water
fish oils
red yeast rice
CoQ10


take care of yourself man!

 

[GeeNo]

First of all, what the hell did you hope to achieve from running eleven straight weeks of winstrol? Get your liver enzymes checked while you're at it. I think you need a real reality check here, "what's the point in living if you're weak and scrawny", are you kidding me?!

You need to get your health in check, do some research (eleven weeks of winstrol, and then anavar and GH, where the hell are you getting your ideas from) and realize what is truly important in live (that is, your health).

 

[txbencher]

what you need to do, been there!!!

He didn't run any liver function, not sure why. BMP was all normal except glucose (I'm type 2 and it was high).

cholesterol 279
triglyceride 466
ldl 158
vldl 93
chol/hdl 10
ldl/hdl 5.6
HDLC3 28

All were high except HDL which was low. Do you think winny would cause all of the cholesterol? The doc wants to use chol pills at some point. I'm a little iffy, I've heard they lower testosterone. That would be OK on cycle, but off, I'd rather take my chances if thats the case.

TSH was 1.13 >>>> .54 to 5.70 is normal

That is normal, but do you think I would benefit from a small increase, or leave it alone? I'm not sure on how much TSH changes during the day. Is this a constant level?

Your triglycerides are the scariest! GEEZ! 1,000-1500 mg/ day of Niacin will bring this down along with 8,000 (that's right, 8 grams!) of fish oil per day. you need to address this immediately. I agree with Phil, you need statins! The mildest to your liver is Pravachol (pravastatin)...but more effective at still with less side effects is Zocor. Pravastaton, you need 20 mg/day...same dosage of Zocor if your Doc prescribes that one. STAY AWAY FROM CRESTOR! Its wiorse that Anadrol-50 on your liver !!!

 

[GoneForever]

Doesnt look very good for being on only winny. How much winny. I got bloodwork done 10weeks or so into cycle of 1gram test,600-700mg deca,gh,igf,slin and a 5-6k calorie diet, was eating lots of saturated fat,junk food, triple cheeseburgers,etc... and my ldl was only 9points higher than normal and hdl was about 20points lower than normal. Triglycerides were perfect, total cholesterol was also good.

 

[GoneForever]

Also, why are you guys recommeneding statins for him when its the winny thats causing this? Would a better idea be to stop the winny, clean up the diet and add some cardio?

 

[PHIL HERNON]

WELL

Also, why are you guys recommeneding statins for him when its the winny thats causing this? Would a better idea be to stop the winny, clean up the diet and add some cardio?

I DONT CARE WHAT IS CAUSING THIS, IF HE DOES NOT GET IT DOWN.................WHO KNOWS WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO HIM. ARE YOU POSITIVE THAT IT IS THE WINNY? SHOULDNT HE GET IT DOWN AND THEN RUN TESTS TO SEE WHAT IS CAUSING IT? SHOULD HE JUST KEEP IT HIGH AND HOPE IT IS THE WINNY?

 

[Phidias]

PEOPLE WHO ARE WEAK AND SCROONY REALLY HAVE NO REASON TO LIVE...........I SEE YOUR POINT.

 

[thebrick]

Geez

With results like that I am suprised your doc didn't immediately schedule you for a heart stress test to look for blockages. Mine sure as hell would have.

 

[mrcat]

I've only got a minute before I have to leave. The trig area a result of type 2 diabetes and change day to day based on how undercontrol the sugar is. The other chol to a lesser degree and likely could be the winny. But trig, does swing according to the BS. I don't know exactly why, but I do know that is the way it works....