Thanks Kevin. We thought about it, and probably will. I'm afraid they will just prescribe Estratest again, which doesn't do much. May need to look for a doctor that sort of specializes in stuff like this. I agree a regular low test dose should help a lot. Don't want to do that on her w/o a doctor monitoring her, etc. A little var is one thing, but actual test she needs to be monitored.
Genesis Peptides, I sent you a PM. Haven't heard back. Still haven't given up on the PT-141. Also, I am going to order some from a sponsor on here. That way, at least I will know its the real thing. The stuff I have now hasn't even caused any of the sides everybody is talking about.
BTW, Ehren, are the metabolites of GHB you are talking about GBL and 1,4 Butandiol? The GBL used to work pretty good also, kind of a junior GHB. I think the Butandiol (sp?) can be used to cook up G (which I would never in a million years try to do). When you go online, several companies carry this stuff, but none will deliver to the US. (Where of course we are).
I don't know if they have actually made GBL a controlled substance also, but it is apparantly pretty hard to get. If anybody knows of any metabolites or precursors that work some, but won't get the heat interested in me, I would love to hear about it. (I do AA vitamins, but don't do rec stuff, or anything else illegal. It just isn't worth it.) And we only do stuff that will help us be more healthy, not the other way around. I don't even drink. But I do remember back in the days when GHB was still legal, there were some other things that were either precursors or metabolites that worked almost as well (some in liquid form and some powder), and also had the zero side effect thing that GHB had. Stuff just turns into water after a little while.
An almost astonishing example of big business (pharmaceutical companies) getting the goverment (and the media) to do their dirty work for them. I think they just saw G as a major competitor for a lot of what they sell, and of course since it is a natural substance, we all have some in our bodies, they couldn't patent it or anything. For a few years, you would read all these stories and reports about how horribly addictive, and destructive the stuff was, which was pure BS. And of course then it got made illegal - I think sched I in US. (Except for one company that was licensed to sell a prescription version of it that is almost impossible to get). Anybody ever hear of a Sched I drug being put out in prescription form? If anybody doesn't believe there is a major (possibly slightly informal but real)
big business/big gov conspiracy in existence, they are really naive.
Anyway, sorry about the rant. But we will try the "go see a doc" thing. However, anybody know anything about legally getting metabolites or precursors, I'd apprecite hearing about it. (Obviously I'm not going to ask about any not legal on here). If you want to PM me, go right ahead.