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Clomid causing gyno!?!?!

becomingthewarrior

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I recently got blood work done after PCT and my numbers where not were i would like them to be. So i decided to run another pct. So I started clomid at 50mg ed and been on for 4 days now. I have been getting sensitive nips, and itchiness and some tingling in the nipple area. Do I need to stop the clomid? Is this stuff causing gyno?
 
it does cause gyno
i feel my tits have grown in the last 2-3yr b/c of clomid, i had a mix of clomid-viag-cialis that i was taking more than necessary a few years back and at this time i saw increases in itchy nips and growth. i used to run .5mg e2d of adex all the time and i shy-ed away from it, but now im back at it and the size increase is starting to revert back to normal
frk
 
I know clomid has a long half life. Been on it for only a few days. I have been runnig aromasin 20mg ed with the clomid. But, do you think if i stop the clomid even with its long half life things will not get worse if i stop today?

I was told to possibly try tribestan to bring up serum test levels. Should be no gyno problems with that
 
trib is good, id say w aromasin u could run low dose clomid no problem
looking back tho i wont ever use clomid again, just use an antiE and call it good, for me its about estro regulation, not hpta boosting. once the estro is negated my boys fire right back up.
frk
 
i know clomid has a long halflife but do you think if I stop taking it today and keep running aromasin 20mg ED that the gyno should not get any worse?
 
i will never touch clomid again

it literally turns me into a little bitch
 
nolva is still good to use though right? Because I thought nolva was just stronger than clomid.
 
i will never touch clomid again

it literally turns me into a little bitch

true, something about clomid that makes me depressed. IMO, hcg during, and nolva only pct and maybe some trib.
 
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right now im more focussed on preventing gyno. So would stopping the clomid prevent things from getting any worse since im already on aromasin?
 
right now im more focussed on preventing gyno. So would stopping the clomid prevent things from getting any worse since im already on aromasin?

Well stopping clomid will at least stop the gyno side effect. And aromasin should start to reduce the gyno.
 
Nolvedex will prevent you from producing more estrogen, it wont remove what you already have...Letro and or Femara will actually reduce the estrogen levels to almost 0 in the body and I beleive you should only run it for a week or so...Ive always run nolvedex from cycle start to finish...that way ya dont produce estrogen throughout...to much HCG can give you gyno as well...so one week of letro and then the nolvedex
 
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Nolvedex will prevent you from producing more estrogen, it wont remove what you already have...Letro and or Femara will actually reduce the estrogen levels to almost 0 in the body and I beleive you should only run it for a week or so...Ive always run nolvedex from cycle start to finish...that way ya dont produce estrogen throughout...to much HCG can give you gyno as well...so one week of letro and then the nolvedex

Nolvadex doesn't lower estrogen. Here's a cut & paste from a nolvadex article:

Nolvadex is commonly referred to in quite a few ways: as a SERM (Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator), as an anti-estrogen (that is actually incorrect, as we will later see), and finally as a triphenylethylene. I happen to stick with calling Nolvadex a SERM, because out of my three options, it happens to be correct (as we know that calling it an anti-estrogen is incorrect), and pronouncable (as we know that I have no idea how to say "triphenylethylene"). Selective estrogen receptor modulators (SERMs) act as either estrogen receptor agonists or antagonists in a tissue-selective manner, lets see what that means to us.

Nolvadex actually has quite a few applications for the steroid using athlete. First and foremost, it´s most common use is for the prevention of gynocomastia. Nolvadex does this by actually competing for the receptor site in breast tissue, and binding to it. Thus, we can safely say that the effect of tamoxifen is through estrogen receptor blockade of breast tissue (1), especially since total body estradiol increases with use of tamoxifen. Clearly, if you are on a cycle which includes steroids which convert to estrogen, you may want to consider nolvadex as a good choice to run along side them.

Nolvadex, however, is not the most potent ancillary compound we can use on a cycle, but it is probably the safest considering it doesn´t actually reduce estrogen in your body keeping some estrogen floating around could have many benefits on muscle growth, as well. Estrogen is also important for a properly functioning immune system, and not only that, but your lipid profile (both HDL and LDL) should also show marked improvement with administration of tamoxifen (4). Many bodybuilders actually use this stuff during their cycle for the health benefits provided by it. If, however, you are preparing for a bodybuilding contest, you need to use something which will suck most (if not all) of the estrogen out of your body. I am speculating that you may be able to use Nolvadex for the majority of a contest prep cycle, to keep yourself relatively healthy, and then switch over to Letrozole for the last 8 weeks.
 
yea, been runing aromasin at 20mg ed,b/c it should eliminate most of the gyno from getting worse and there is no rebound effect with aromasin
 
yea, been runing aromasin at 20mg ed,b/c it should eliminate most of the gyno from getting worse and there is no rebound effect with aromasin

What did you run leading into the PCT? What other compounds are you currently taking ....meds? Supp's? etc?

I'd keep the Aromasin in at low doses during PCT. It will help inhibit Estradiol levels while keeping the weaker estrogen, estrone, available for reasonable E levels. Yes, most do not experience rebound from Aromasin use and cessation of its use. It will lower E levels just enough to help in recovery, but not lower it too much to hurt it.

BMJ
 
Nolvedex will prevent you from producing more estrogen, it wont remove what you already have...Letro and or Femara will actually reduce the estrogen levels to almost 0 in the body and I beleive you should only run it for a week or so...Ive always run nolvedex from cycle start to finish...that way ya dont produce estrogen throughout...to much HCG can give you gyno as well...so one week of letro and then the nolvedex

Maybe a more experienced bro will chime in here but from the reading I've done, Tamoxifen will not reduce E, it will prevent it from binding to recepters at a tissue level - particularly at your titties...

Also, HCG should not be run in PCT because it is suppressive of natural T. Run throughout the cycle at a low dose seems the option of favor in TRT circles at least.
 
yea, been runing aromasin at 20mg ed,b/c it should eliminate most of the gyno from getting worse and there is no rebound effect with aromasin

there is some strong research showing the effects of the compound in epistane/havoc being effective at reversing gyno in something like 70 odd % of users..not necessarily eliminating it all together but if you added something like this early enough it just may reverse it completely.

I have ran it twice for adolescent induced gyno and it did shrink it Id say bout a good 40 ish percent (the discs) however my nipples have always been "puffy" I was in the hopes that would go away but it didnt

BTW if you ran that you would need to end with a PCT as it will shut you down
 
there is some strong research showing the effects of the compound in epistane/havoc being effective at reversing gyno in something like 70 odd % of users..not necessarily eliminating it all together but if you added something like this early enough it just may reverse it completely.

I have ran it twice for adolescent induced gyno and it did shrink it Id say bout a good 40 ish percent (the discs) however my nipples have always been "puffy" I was in the hopes that would go away but it didnt

BTW if you ran that you would need to end with a PCT as it will shut you down

Just an FYI. Epi gave me gyno - for the first time ever. Not D-bol, A50, or Test did it, but Epi did. I hate that stuff.
 

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