completely insane from drugs.

[Phattony]

Drugs are the best, i count 10 peds ive been on this cycle thatd show up on the banned substances list for athletic commissions. Recreationally ive got a medical marjuana card, vape weed, edibles and always have opiates, xanax, lyrica, somas and what not around to dabble with on the weekends. Oh and i make moonshine. On 5 nootropics atm too. Cialis and blood pressure pills too here and there too.

we have a winner here don't we? Lol

 

[BigMatt]

At 24 years old i was diagnosed with Paranoid Squizophrenia.

Currently take 1 im injection each 4 weeks of Invega sustena.

My psychiatrist said i have too much dopamine and not enough serotonine.

It fuck up your brain chemistry. Excess dopamine is not good.

 

[ALLEX]

Well, if you have a real serious condition that has been diagnosed by 4 or 5 good doctors, I suppose there's a case for you to think about using such drugs, but for your overall daily anxiety or little insomnia, please don't even think about it.

Proper breathing can do wonders for mild anxiety. Try it.

 

[Samson250]

Well, if you have a real serious condition that has been diagnosed by 4 or 5 good doctors, I suppose there's a case for you to think about using such drugs, but for your overall daily anxiety or little insomnia, please don't even think about it.

Proper breathing can do wonders for mild anxiety. Try it.

Plus I would add most of us who HAVE to take meds don't want to if we didn't have to.

 

[little slice]

this goes a long way to explain why so many women are fucking nuts lmao




i'd never touch these drugs ffs

 

[dale338]

I watched this happen to my mother.

My mother was (still is) the most incredibly beautiful woman. She went through some hard times in her late 40's became depressed. Started with Prozac and lead from one medication to another. Until she had a bag full of scripts. Stuff to fight depression, stuff to fight the anxiety the depression mess gave her, stuff to relax at night.

Fast forward 12 years later and my mother is all but gone. She is a shell Of her former self. She has withered away and has involuntary movements, ADHD, twitching, can't stay focused on anything, has torn both her knees, he back, her elbows and shoulders all requiring full reconstructive surgeries. If you didn't know her and sat with her, you'd 100% think she was basically on crack or some serious street drug.

If I could, I beat to death the doctor that lead her down this path. They took her life. All started with a rough patch in life she would have came through.

Don't touch this shit! It will ruin you!

 

[Alzadosghost]

Really similar story with my mom but she used to be the most energetic person I knew. She got me into training when I was a kid. In her 40,s she became super depressed and the doctors starting throwing "ding biscuits" at her as the solution. I watched her quickly lose her mind and her wits. She was the only one that seemed ok with her. She's a very loving person still but just sedated on that crap. She will call me randomly and just breathe into the phone not saying anything. Used to really creep me out but she insists she's happy. I guess that's what matters. Mom had a rough life and couldn't deal with it's reprocussions later in life. Pills didn't fix her. I think they just made her forget. She's always happy. But seriously vegetative. Love you mom. No disrespect.

 

[LK3]

This is why I hope medical cannabis will eventually get approved in all 50 states. Go to see a doctor for anxiety or depression and he will write a script for an SSRI which might help you, or it might make you want to jump head first off a tall building. Use cannabis and it may help your problems....but even if it doesn't the worst thing you will do is sit on the couch all night, eat a large pizza and a bag of chips, watch some TV and then go to bed.

well...
in most places can is not available for mental issue.
i went to 2 places to get my permission slip, the first was funny, i listed on the intake form why i was there blah blah.

i use can as mood stabilizer.
for this, they can not allow. for pain, like migraine, they can. i have had those all my life sooo permission granted.. lol

in regards to the thread here..
can is kinda unique in this way as it does not play with the neurochemistry that all these other drugs do.:lightbulb:

ssri's an all the rest as we see over and over can be scary shit.

i really dislike the feel of all of these mental drugs, just scary. they make me a more dangerous and sick person.

a lot of mental health come down to diet, health, oxidation...

the more i read and learn the more i see that diet probably has A LOT to do with all of this. i was reading somethign today.... here
Mind Bending Drugs For Psycho Diets

really reminded me of things i know i need to do.:banghead:

sugar/sweet food/artificial sweetener. i have to stop!

i also think this whole "bb" life style thing makes mental issues worse.

most are guilty of carbs/protien only with little regard for the rest. i certainly am. for years! this is my new project! clean up diet for health/life! it sucks! but... 100% is the key to all this aging staying healthy crap...:banghead:

 

[11111]

Has anyone else gone completely insane from zoloft, and celexa or any other pills likely them. These two medications turned me into a different and dangerous person.
A PA scripted me these for anxiety. I was angry and suicidal.
I did thing I've never in my right mind would do. These drugs are dangerous.

cinder, just curious, what did you do?

 

[KillerStack]

in regards to the thread here..
can is kinda unique in this way as it does not play with the neurochemistry that all these other drugs do.:lightbulb:
:

What do you mean it doesn't affect neurochemistry. I've seen you say it before. Does it not release dopamine for example?

 

[LK3]

What do you mean it doesn't affect neurochemistry. I've seen you say it before. Does it not release dopamine for example?

i guess it depends on how you want to take that statement...

no, chemically there is no like cuase/effect direct relation between cannabis and dopamine.

speaking in a chem way. like... idk caber, effects dopamine..

now... life effects dopamine. lol
and yes once we dig really deep and hard we can see that "research" shows can inadvertanly CAN fuck with dopamine signaling and other "stuff"

but you have to look really hard and deep and it is a complex and changeing relation.

the "science" behind this head shit is tricky. "medicine" likes x+y=z approach that can be repeated. unfortunately head stuff doesnt really work like that.

on a chem level cannabis does some stuff, but due to the "percetion" change other stuff can happen, again life and your thoughts effect the outcome...

 

[KillerStack]

i guess it depends on how you want to take that statement...

no, chemically there is no like cuase/effect direct relation between cannabis and dopamine.

speaking in a chem way. like... idk caber, effects dopamine..

now... life effects dopamine. lol
and yes once we dig really deep and hard we can see that "research" shows can inadvertanly CAN fuck with dopamine signaling and other "stuff"

but you have to look really hard and deep and it is a complex and changeing relation.

the "science" behind this head shit is tricky. "medicine" likes x+y=z approach that can be repeated. unfortunately head stuff doesnt really work like that.

on a chem level cannabis does some stuff, but due to the "percetion" change other stuff can happen, again life and your thoughts effect the outcome...

I'm not sure I follow completely Lol, but I guess it's kind of like some say it only changes your perception but you still have to do the work to untangle your mind, like self-therapy. Lots of people say "it's not a drug" but to me it is of course. But people have these weird hang-ups over the term, feeling it gives negative associations.
One guy on another bodybuilding forum PMd me saying he knew several people seriously mindfucking themselves with the stuff because they were not aware of the mental problems just under the surface. He himself had depersonalization from it and now had to do some type of rituals and really focus his intent before partaking.

I'm all for this used as a medicine (if it agrees with you) since it lacks some harsh sides of other drugs but it should be respected.

 

[Dado5]

I have been on paxil since 2001. Tried getting off and can’t. Chemical imbalance did its thing and now I have to stay on it forever.
I feel great, normal, no issues at all.

 

[KillerStack]

The thing with psych drugs, antidepressants for example, is that it's still not exactly known how they work. It's not even known if there is a chemical imbalance as such in people with depression, certainly "no one" gets any kind of brain chemistry tests before being scripted drugs. Some anti-ds are thought to help by increasing serotonin but then you have some like tianeptine iirc that lower serotonin and may work just as well or better. Other theories are growth of new neural networks since the brain is plastic and etc.

Years ago I read about schizophrenia, dopamine was thought to play a part but how exactly was unknown.

The anti-ds I've used with moderate success, venlafaxine and bupropione might work, at least partly, through opioid receptors.

Highly complicated and experimental

 

[LK3]

I'm not sure I follow completely Lol, but I guess it's kind of like some say it only changes your perception but you still have to do the work to untangle your mind, like self-therapy. Lots of people say "it's not a drug" but to me it is of course. But people have these weird hang-ups over the term, feeling it gives negative associations.
One guy on another bodybuilding forum PMd me saying he knew several people seriously mindfucking themselves with the stuff because they were not aware of the mental problems just under the surface. He himself had depersonalization from it and now had to do some type of rituals and really focus his intent before partaking.

I'm all for this used as a medicine (if it agrees with you) since it lacks some harsh sides of other drugs but it should be respected.

i wanted to be gental in my answer. lol
the basis is that no can doesnt fuck with major neoro chems, like these other things...

that siad i think can is way overused and ppl think it cures/fixes everyting. lol:banghead:

i have never met anyone really "well versed" in head uses with it. most are goof balls. lol

you clearly know how complicated the head thing is, most really need to wake up to it.

 

[Cinder]

cinder, just curious, what did you do?

I was immediately put on 50mg zoloft and I can't remember the celexa dosage.
All caused I was scared to eat in public cause I might puke.

 

[ThinkTank]

Well, if you have a real serious condition that has been diagnosed by 4 or 5 good doctors, I suppose there's a case for you to think about using such drugs, but for your overall daily anxiety or little insomnia, please don't even think about it.

Proper breathing can do wonders for mild anxiety. Try it.

Try talk therapy with a psychologist.

No side effects. Works wonders. Long term fix.

 

[lntense]

The fact that doctors even prescribe SSRIs for anxiety is beyond me.

 

[Samson250]

i wanted to be gental in my answer. lol
the basis is that no can doesnt fuck with major neoro chems, like these other things...

that siad i think can is way overused and ppl think it cures/fixes everyting. lol:banghead:

i have never met anyone really "well versed" in head uses with it. most are goof balls. lol

you clearly know how complicated the head thing is, most really need to wake up to it.

Yeah look I love the stuff and life long user but in my own personal experience having started at a young age it DIRECTLY effects my chemistry and AMPLIFIES my symptoms. It is now well accepted (though unproven) that self medicating with a predisposition of bipolar issues amplifies those issues, especially when no other meds are taken. I HATE that! I don't want to believe it's true but after YEARS of experience I have to face the realities of using it for self medication which is.. I CANT use it anymore and stay healthy.

 

[Samson250]

The fact that doctors even prescribe SSRIs for anxiety is beyond me.

Because of the addictive nature of many alternative medications! SSRIs tend not be abused like the others.