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Costochondral Separation

5F00ter

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Guys I was declining 415 yesterday when I heard a louod pop in the dead center of my chest, than a really hot/ warm fealing, than intense pain. They tell me I have costochondral separation which means I tore the cartilage that holds my ribs to my sternum. Please can you guys give me some info on how I am not goinng to turn into jelly. :eek:

Heere's what it is **broken link removed**
 
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Well...

The link you provided pretty much has all the answers.
You're going to have to treat this very gently for quite awhile - like months. It can't really be cast, though wrapping your ribcage with a snug ace bandage may help stabilize the area. See if you can get one of those that's 20 feet long, and about 6 inches wide - the kind that sprained ankles are often wrapped in in the ER.

Realize that injuries to cartilage take a long time (months) to heal. This is because cartilage is a few cartilage cells (chondrocytes) sort of floating in a jelly-like matrix of ground substance, and protein fibres. The cells affect the repair, but cartilage itself has a poorer blood supply than, say, bone or muscle. This means, due to the relative scarcity of cells, and poorer blood supply, that healing time for connective tissue is longer.

Anything that stetches your ribcage before this heals - coughing hard, sneezing, benching, etc - runs the risk of re-injury!
 
Thanks but more questions

Well I sorta of get that, though I did not know the part about what cartilage is. I sorta ment...

1. How do I loose the lease amount of muscle mass possible. Should I go on some somatropin or something. I do realize that fish oil helps maintain established muscle.

2. Has anyone had this injury before and how long did it take them. Dad in above post said cartilage takes a while to heal. I am taking extra vitamen c because I read that helps it heal faster. After healing about 2 mothns is my guess. Will that always be a weak spot and am I doomed to never go to heavy weights again.

3. If anyone had had or know about this injury, can I work other areas of my body without repracution. Say my bis, tris, shoulders, and legs. I realize that working my chest and back are out.

4. I read online that I should where a "flak jacket" type vest that injured football players wear when I start working out again. Is that like the shirts powerlifters wear.

5. Also the hydrocodone they have me on is making me ill quezy it that jsut the meds. Beyond that should I stay on all my supplements while going through this crap.

**broken link removed** more info to help you help me if you can

Thanks to all my friends on here
 
I'll try...

I'll try to answer a few of your questions:

How to lose the least amount of muscle?
Right now recovery from your injury is priority. You will lose muscle mass and strength. The muscle will come back quickly once you're able to train fully. AAS or GH without the stimulus of training hard, extra food, etc isn't going to do much, if anything. It might help slow the muscle loss the first few weeks, but not much else. GH and anavar may help some with the healing process - again, not dramatically without being able to train hard.

Taking extra vitamin C is a good idea certainly, but will not help the rate of healing unless there was a deficiency to begin with. The rate you heal will be dictated by your genetics, but you should heal completely given enough time. Not to be discouraging here, but you're probably looking at more like 4-6 months for this to really heal fully. You MIGHT be able to "test the water" just a little bit with VERY light weight after 2 months (8-9 weeks), but for CT injuries, full recovery WILL take more like 6 moths rather than 2.

Working other bodyparts?
Maybe, but for the first 4 weeks or so it'd be best to let this just settle down. Even working other bodyparts you're going to have to go lighter so you aren't breathing hard, or straining in order to lift. LIGHT calf raises with a belt around your waist for weight, leg extentions, and seated leg curls might be ok - you're just going to have to try it, and strat out VERY light!

Don't know about the "flack Jacket" idea, but a powerlifting shirt is definately out until you're pretty fully healed. Just getting into one of those is real work, and will pull your arms and ribs all over the place.

Supplements?
Again, good overall idea, but won't increase healing rates much, if at all, unless you have a deficiency, which is pretty unlikely. Don't look for these to make a real big difference other than keeping you healthy. Many of Weil's opinions are, well, to be taken with a grain of salt. He's an "alternative practitioner" (must be alternative to established science, like most of them), and much of this stuff is, so far, unproven in rigorous studies.

I know this is discouraging, and NO ONE wants to hear that it's going to take months to heal, but you WILL heal, and there's no reason (unless you get impatient, and re-injure yourself!) that you can't recover fully, WITHOUT an ongoing "weak spot." You should be able, eventually, to return to everything you've been doing, and even more! Just give yourself time to heal, and don't worry about losing muscle mass - you will, but it'll come back fast!
 
Dad

Thank you so much you have helped me greatly and I feal a little better though I am going to lament every ound I loose. Hehehe well least I'll have GH and some others to come back to and start over. I guess this was god putting on my cutting cycle.
 
Be well

5FOOTer,

I know how hard it is to suffer serious injury and be faced with a longer recovery period than you'd like - it's really tough for someone like you who's strong and active. BUT, you WILL come through this and be able to keep going!

I didn't mean to sound discouraging, but wanted to impress upon you how important it is to really let this heal, and that it's going to take awhile. I wish I had back all the time I've wasted by diving back into training hard with inadequate recovery, only to get re-injured and have to start all over!

Hopefully, you'll be a lot smarter than I've been at times!

Best wishes,
Dad
 
Sorry thought this post wasa dead but have one more question

Hey I don't real pain to much any more but my chest it that spot is poping like 5 or 6 times a day. It feal really freaking wierd. It's like cracking my neck sort of but I don't have control of it. Is my rib bone poping in and out of place?
 

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