Cycle Q 4 the over 40 guys

[cryptasm]

For all of us youngsters over 40 just wanted to get a feel for cycle lenghts.. Do you stay on longer because of lower test levels as you age, bridge with lower dose, stay on all year, short cycles?? just looking for input and opinions
My test levels when off are in the 400's which is low in my opinion....and I'm intested in seeing what some of the methods used are, also if using longer cycles are you using HGC/PCT during and at what time frames???

 

[DOGMA]

Well I am over 40 just barely and been using for about 6 years and I just recently noticed a very distinct drop in Libido post cycle. The cycle I am referring too was ended last May and was a typicle 12 weeker with long duration gear such as test enan/EQ/dbol(4weeks) and my sex drive was hit very hard. I had always used a little HCG and Clomid post cycle but very little and revovered fine but that for that cycle it did not help at all. My last cycle I used all fast acting gear for 6 weeks and my recovery was much better very little drop in labido. So I will from now on use fast acting gear for shorter cycles and standard PCT. One more thing I can add is Proviron it worked wonders for my recovery this last go around.

 

[cryptasm]

proviron instead of Nolv?

u used proviron for PCT? What do u use when ur on? I had about a year of low libido and bad attitude.. had my T levels checked and I was low. I have talked to some guys on this and other boards that stay on all the time as they get older.. or bridge with 200mgs for a couple mos.. I used some when I was younger and then didnt for about 8 years...just started about two years ago again but i'm finding i like the longer cycles. so if u do short say 6weeks? then off for how long?

 

[DOGMA]

Yeah I used it during my PCT to help with the libido problems... it worked wonders, I started waking up with AM wood after the 3rd day. During my cycles I use no PCT type product even during PCT I use onlt small amounts of HCG and Clomid.

Long cycles will only hamper your recovery the longer your on the longer before you recover. The idea is to fully recover do a short cycle of fast acting gear so you dont shut yourself down too hard. Ya everone loves long cycles but our age we have to be smarter. Im off at least 12 weeks. But I also bridge with HGH quite often.

 

[cryptasm]

I'm on 5 mos.. started at 600mg p/w and now at 800mg p/w so not very high dose, but w/ summer coming and just started dieting 4 weeks ago I need to get a break in somewhere but don't wanna do it now... I was reading about the the shorter burst cycles.. I dunno I figure if my natural test is lower than good why do I want to be at that for 12 weeks at a time. Whats your t levels when youre off??

 

[DOGMA]

Dont really know I dont get thme tested every time I come off? The last time I had them checked I was low I dont remember the #'s but low enough the doc said he would scrpt me some androgel, I declined.

 

[cryptasm]

For all of us youngsters over 40 just wanted to get a feel for cycle lenghts.. Do you stay on longer because of lower test levels as you age, bridge with lower dose, stay on all year, short cycles?? just looking for input and opinions
My test levels when off are in the 400's which is low in my opinion....and I'm intested in seeing what some of the methods used are, also if using longer cycles are you using HGC/PCT during and at what time frames???

come guys are there only 2 of us over 40 on this fuckin board? I think not.. how bout some input, huh...Mike S? your older than me come on...

 

[worldspan]

come guys are there only 2 of us over 40 on this fuckin board? I think not.. how bout some input, huh...Mike S? your older than me come on...

Bro

I am 54 and just completed a twelve week cycle but yeah while I was horny as hell at 1st, with the tapering down of things towards end, libido went
down the drain by the 12th week

The very last week of the cycle I was asked to make a professional porn
movie with this hot babe from South Beach. Imagine, me at 54 making
a porn movie, thank God for bodybuilding giving me the bod that I would
be asked! However, things did not go all that well. If you are making a
40 minute porn flick, requires about 2 hours of foreplay and fucking. Well
after 90 minutes of foreplay, was time for the "f-cking" part and had
real difficulty in maintaining an erection and to top things off shot too early
because of the previous 1.5 hours of foreplay. Needless to say the photographer was pretty upset and I don't think I'll be asked again.

As such, between my heavy cycles, considering a minimum of maintenance
test 12months a year to keep the sexual stamina in high gear.

Worldspan

 

[Big Ed]

most guys i know who juice your age or older stay on 200mg test every week or ever 10-14 days. Then they will do 10 week cycles staying under a gram total.

My dad is 57 12% or so 240+ and stays on 200mg ew and 4iu gh ed. His next cycle is in a few weeks and is going to be 400mg test 400mg deca.

 

[xcelbeyond]

Well - I didn't start back into gear until I was 47-48 about 5 years ago.

I don't really know what to tell you as it's SO individual. I'm still experimenting, but have been clean for "other" reasons for nearly the last 2 years. I'm gonna start back on short cycles with med. amounts - 400-500mg test, 30mg Var, 50-100mg Proviron. On 4 weeks, cruise 3 weeks.

 

[Otis T Holbrook]

I always thought the 6-8 week "reverse" taper was good for us older guys. (If you not competing)Start with the highest dose week 1 and decrease all the way to week six. Start again in 3-4 weeks.

 

[cryptasm]

Porn Star

Bro

I am 54 and just completed a twelve week cycle but yeah while I was horny as hell at 1st, with the tapering down of things towards end, libido went
down the drain by the 12th week

The very last week of the cycle I was asked to make a professional porn
movie with this hot babe from South Beach. Imagine, me at 54 making
a porn movie, thank God for bodybuilding giving me the bod that I would
be asked! However, things did not go all that well. If you are making a
40 minute porn flick, requires about 2 hours of foreplay and fucking. Well
after 90 minutes of foreplay, was time for the "f-cking" part and had
real difficulty in maintaining an erection and to top things off shot too early
because of the previous 1.5 hours of foreplay. Needless to say the photographer was pretty upset and I don't think I'll be asked again.

As such, between my heavy cycles, considering a minimum of maintenance
test 12months a year to keep the sexual stamina in high gear.

Worldspan

Sorry about the wood!!!!
Try some caberloine (sp) and cialis next time.. caberloine is a dopamine agonist and also lowers prolactin, but best part is increases sex drive, delays orgasum and can have multiple orgasums, cialis I'm sure you know what that is... so how long is heavy cycle and how long is maint?
whats heavy dosage total and whats maints dosage

 

[cryptasm]

I always thought the 6-8 week "reverse" taper was good for us older guys. (If you not competing)Start with the highest dose week 1 and decrease all the way to week six. Start again in 3-4 weeks.

I think Im leaning towards that in the future... 304 weeks w nolv and caberlone (dostinex) whaTEVER THE F*&&^ ITS CALLED...got some but to lazy to go read the lable.. Like bromo but less sides...
been using 500mg test and 300 deca pw..need to take a break but dieting right now and don't wanna come off, specially with summer comming...
Not competeeting 4 sure but wanna look good and comming off now would probly be counter productive...

What is a typical cycle in mgs for a reverse taper?

 

[cryptasm]

I think Im leaning towards that in the future... 304 weeks w nolv and caberlone (dostinex) whaTEVER THE F*&&^ ITS CALLED...got some but to lazy to go read the lable.. Like bromo but less sides...
been using 500mg test and 300 deca pw..need to take a break but dieting right now and don't wanna come off, specially with summer comming...
Not competeeting 4 sure but wanna look good and comming off now would probly be counter productive...

What is a typical cycle in mgs for a reverse taper?

I meant 3-4 not 304 weeks!!!!

 

[worldspan]

Sorry about the wood!!!!
Try some caberloine (sp) and cialis next time.. caberloine is a dopamine agonist and also lowers prolactin, but best part is increases sex drive, delays orgasum and can have multiple orgasums, cialis I'm sure you know what that is... so how long is heavy cycle and how long is maint?
whats heavy dosage total and whats maints dosage

The heavy cycle was 12 weeks, now taking 10 weeks PCT with usual stuff plus slin/clen to maintain size gained during 12 weeks. Was on 1100 mgs most of the cycle but undecided how much for the inbetween periods.

Worldspan

 

[MikeS]

I do low dose bridges 8-12wks (250mg test wk) when I go off normal 12-16wk cycles. I use the same anti estros all the time - clomid M-W-F, Arimidex Tue/sun.
Proviron? That is an AAS, and will cause disturbance in the HPTA. Its a STRONG non-aromatizing androgen (hence the wood) and will not have severe shutdown capabilities because no estrogen converted, but it does fit in the androgen receptor, for sure.

 

[Otis T Holbrook]

A typical reverse taper dose for someone less than 200lbs over 50 years old and not competing. (Who may be concerned with health) might be:
Week 1&2 50mg day orals 300-500 mg week injectable
Week 3&4 25 mg day oral 200-300 mg week injectable
Week 5&6 No oral 100-200 mg week injectable
Week 7&8 HCG 2cc every 2 days or what ever you have to pump up the nads. You may not need anything.
This may sound weak to most guys, but try it once.