Cytradren

[MUSCLEBOSS35]

What is the best way to use Cytradren?...I know its usually used the last 2 weeks before a show but I wasn't too sure on dosage...used it once before with excellent results...I think I used 2 tabs daily and increased to 4 eventually. Any input would be appreciated.
thank you

 

[AWN2004]

Skip would be able to give a great answer to this question....hopefully he chimes in.

 

[MUSCLEBOSS35]

Chime in...chime in...

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Do you mean cytadren?

Aminoglutethamide? For cortisol supression? Dont go over 500mg EOD if you must use it. Please be careful, it is not worth it.

 

[Mr.Huge]

many take it

2 days on 2 days off 250mg should be sufficient. Split up your dosages 2-3 times a day with meals. Like Phil said be safe and everyone reacts differently so just dont over do it.


Mr.Huge

 

[Skip]

Low dosing of this compound will not provide an anti cortisol affect. It will still work as a strong anti estrogen and provide aldosterone control but you need higher dosing for the affects on cortisol.

Skip

 

[TooPowerful4u]

Low dosing of this compound will not provide an anti cortisol affect. It will still work as a strong anti estrogen and provide aldosterone control but you need higher dosing for the affects on cortisol.

Skip

LISTEN TO THIS MAN. He knows his shit. He is correct. I ramped it up for my show and i started at 250/day and ramped up all the way to my top dose (on skips advice), and watched my physique harden (before water cut) and it just got harder as i dried out. It definatly makes a difference. Skip has a specific way he uses cytadren, and it seemed to be very effective. All the research i read just proved he was dead on with his method. He knows his shit, and ur not gonna find all the specific correct info on the net (iv looked, ul find a lot of bad info tho), would probably be a good idea to hire him and have him help you out.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Thats retarted

LISTEN TO THIS MAN. He knows his shit. He is correct. I ramped it up for my show and i started at 250/day and ramped up all the way to my top dose (on skips advice), and watched my physique harden (before water cut) and it just got harder as i dried out. It definatly makes a difference. Skip has a specific way he uses cytadren, and it seemed to be very effective. All the research i read just proved he was dead on with his method. He knows his shit, and ur not gonna find all the specific correct info on the net (iv looked, ul find a lot of bad info tho), would probably be a good idea to hire him and have him help you out.

Hire someone to learn how to take cytadren? My advice to you is that if it involves drugs, talk to your doctor. Do not let someone on here, unless they are a pharmacist or MD, tell you what Cytadren protocols to follow. TPFU, you learned all about cytadren but MUSCLEBOSS cant find the same info because he would not have access to it on the net?? ahahahahahahah

 

[Skip]

My advice to you is that if it involves drugs, talk to your doctor. Do not let someone on here, unless they are a pharmacist or MD, tell you what Cytadren protocols to follow.

With all due respect Phil, your statements above contradict what this board is based on and known for. This is drug central and everyone is giving advice on everything from DNP to insulin. Why would cytadren be any different? For the record, I have never given cytadren dosing info openly on your board or any other board.

Skip

 

[SFINX]

So...you think that an MD or pharmacist are able to give him contest advice

 

[MikeS]

I agree that Cytadren is a drug that should be used with the utmost caution.
I had some nasty effects using it 2on 2off, which is one recommended manner of useage. Keep the use short term-bottom line! 2-3wks.

Skip, I always thought Cytadren was most effective in lowering Cortisol levels, more so than lowering estro and andro (yes, lowers testosterone) levels. Or aldosterone. It lowers the Demolase hormone, kind of a master hormone. I could be wrong here but that is what I always thought was the prevailing thought.

A doctor? Are you kidding? Fucking Doctors are not the experts on performance enhancing drugs, Ive said this since day1. In fact most are complete imbeciles. The guys here (the vets/gurus) have more expertiece by far. So I guess its always good to also be careful who you listen to (again - vets/gurus).

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Yes

So...you think that an MD or pharmacist are able to give him contest advice

I would go to a doctor for contest advice before I would ask you.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

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Low dosing of this compound will not provide an anti cortisol affect. It will still work as a strong anti estrogen and provide aldosterone control but you need higher dosing for the affects on cortisol.

Skip

If you want to lower aldosterone levels, why not just take spiralactone?

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Funny

Doctors, pharmacists, chemists etc....INVENT these drugs, give people safe protocol usage, and they are labeled as not being an expert on their use. A doctors job is to keep people alive and healthy, the exact opposite of what most of these guys are looking to do. They just want to be as big as possible without being worried about health issues down the road.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Cytadren usage

Reduced cortisol makes your body produce ACTH, which causes your body to make more cortisol, and when you get off cytadryn, you rebound into a state of excessive cortisol and you will lose muscle. If you stay on cytadryn for too long, you will completely stop your body's production of cortisol. Cytadren killed Andreas Munzer, because some cysts burst in his liver, and his blood did not clot because he had no cortisol in his system.

 

[MikeS]

I think that dieuritics and Cytadren are the most dangerous BBing aids.
Like Phil said, overdo the Cytadren and your body will compensate with the ACTH. Personally, I will never use it again. But then again I dont compete, so I am never in a situation where I need to be 100% peak ripped condition.

 

[TooPowerful4u]

lol ask a doctor or pharmacist? I can go to my doc n ask about clenbuterol, hel ask me if i have asthma lol. They dunno shyt when it comes to usin this stuff towards application to bodybuilding.

Also yes im sayin MuscleBoss wont find the info i have on cytadren on the net. Absolutly. I spent weeks lookin, couldnt find anything solid.

I dont agree with using it just for cortisol suppression for better gains while bulking, but for competition i think it works wonders. Iv seen guys back stage that just looked harder than the rest of the competitors, n waddaya know when i talked to them i dont think ONE said he wasnt using it. Its not gonna bring you in great shape if you didnt diet down and u arent lean, its not magic, but if your already in shape itl sure polish it off nicely.

Im pretty sure the ACTH rebound can be controlled or at least held off with proper dosing schedule

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Answer me this

lol ask a doctor or pharmacist? I can go to my doc n ask about clenbuterol, hel ask me if i have asthma lol. They dunno shyt when it comes to usin this stuff towards application to bodybuilding.

Also yes im sayin MuscleBoss wont find the info i have on cytadren on the net. Absolutly. I spent weeks lookin, couldnt find anything solid.

I dont agree with using it just for cortisol suppression for better gains while bulking, but for competition i think it works wonders. Iv seen guys back stage that just looked harder than the rest of the competitors, n waddaya know when i talked to them i dont think ONE said he wasnt using it. Its not gonna bring you in great shape if you didnt diet down and u arent lean, its not magic, but if your already in shape itl sure polish it off nicely.

Im pretty sure the ACTH rebound can be controlled or at least held off with proper dosing schedule

Why would they have to be experts at bodybuilding? This field takes a long time and a lot of experiments to learn, even then we dont know that nuch. After your show you were complaining about all your weight gain and feeling bad. Were you prepared for that to happen? Rebound? The next time you need a doctor to save your life, I hope he doesnt remmeber you from a BBing site where you have put up your pictures and drug dosages all the while telling us that doctors dont know shit. He/she just might not want toi help you since they dont know shit.

 

[MikeS]

Ok I'll ask my doctor. Would that be the same Doctor, whos community as a whole, denounced steroids as substances which would not improve performance in sports whatsoever? Or the ones who now, also as a whole, back the outcry of steroid hysteria providing their damning 'expert' (i.e-bullshit and lies)opinions?

Yeah I really trust these guys.

Phil you can split hairs here to the end but your dead wrong on this one. Maybe the one guy(s) who specializes and/or invented a certain drug is an expert on it, but the vast majority are fucking bozos plain and simple. If you are lucky you may find a good doctor, chances are slim. The underground experts here may not know everything, but damn sure more than your average Practicioner.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

MIKE S

I know what you are saying. My point is, how do you expect someone who spends their whole life keeping people healthy and alive associate with an activity that leads to distruction? Sure, doctors today prescribe HRT, and they are for the most part all for it I believe. Endocrinologists are the specialists here, not general practicioners anyway. We are not talking about that though. We are talking about abuse. We are talking about using cytadren to harden and dry up for a show. Would you prescribe that? My god, try dieting. TPFU is taking cytadren? For the Mr. New Jersey? We wonder why half of the MR. O lineup from 10 years ago has a kidney transplant or is dead. Do you think Flex Wheeler, Tom Prince, ANdreas Meunzer, MIke Francois, Don Youngblood, Don Long, JJ Marsh, Orville Burk,Vince Commerford, MIke Matarazzo, Sonny Schmidt, Charles Durr, Anthony Clark, many more who had to retire or die are calling doctors fucking bozos? It bothers me because my father is a doctor and he is not a fucking bozo. All of his friends are briliant people working hard ot save peoples lives. I propose that if you fuck yourself up on cytadren or whatever, you should have no right to see a doctor. Then see how you feel about them.