DNP and insulin at the same time? whaaa?

[bruiser]

My friend is doing his normal test/deca cycle and with his pre work out 15iu slin.

He's beeing doing dnp cylces with each cycle and looks amazing.

im wondering... he's doing slin and his cycle to bulk but doing dnp to lose weight? how is this even working or is it? lol. this sounds dangerous to me.

 

[Creed428]

I believe DNP and insulin together has been called the poor mans HGH insulin as we all know is extremly anabolic but can add fat relatively easy so by adding DNP with the use of insulin helps keep the fat off while making gains... at least this is how i remember reading it.

 

[S2N]

sure why not sounds like every pros cutting stack

 

[bruiser]

I believe DNP and insulin together has been called the poor mans HGH insulin as we all know is extremly anabolic but can add fat relatively easy so by adding DNP with the use of insulin helps keep the fat off while making gains... at least this is how i remember reading it.

he's on 250mg 2x day for two weeks at a time with slin. I just thought this would be dangerous.

 

[ajdos]

Im more curious about the type of carb and how much hes using with 500 mg ed of DNP and 15ius of slin?
What kind of slin? Log or humulin R?

 

[bruiser]

i didn't think you can still gain size while on dnp :banghead:

 

[S2N]

maybe not gain huge amounts but it will keep you full and anabolic as dnp tends to flatten you out pretty good

 

[bruiser]

Im more curious about the type of carb and how much hes using with 500 mg ed of DNP and 15ius of slin?
What kind of slin? Log or humulin R?

Ill ask.

He's pretty much doing that one protocol I saw on here.

30 minutes pre work out 15iu humalog
with carbs 10g per iu and the other stuff

60 minutes later, carb and protein shake

60 minutes later, carbs and protein shake

i think hes doing 60 carbs for the last two shakes.

 

[npcout]

Ive always read this being popular, in 1 week interval blasts. Running slin with dnp to force feed cells with carbs to burn.. i remember people loading with high doses of t3 to and burning over 2lbs of fat a day for 7 days.. they would do it every 6-8 weeks in a long 20+ week bulking cycle.

 

[b-boy]

Dnp + insulin = poor mans igf
Advantage? Increase in lean muscle mass and lack of hypoglycemia in most people.

 

[epoxy]

Never heard of making gains on DNP. Then again probably because I've only ever used really high doses.

 

[TrenBrah]

Dnp + insulin = poor mans igf
Advantage? Increase in lean muscle mass and lack of hypoglycemia in most people.

250mg DNP I am assuming? I ran 500, and fuck, workout sucked balls. No idea how someone could have productive workouts on 500.

 

[epoxy]

250mg DNP I am assuming? I ran 500, and fuck, workout sucked balls. No idea how someone could have productive workouts on 500.

Haha same I've done cycles of 600 and 800mg and my workouts consisted of sweatily walking around the gym until I got discouraged enough to leave.

 

[TNH]

I run 10-15iu slin PWO when on DNP.
It keeps me full instead of that terrible flatness I usually have on DNP.
I used IGF1 DES before with similar results.
You just look better while on the DNP if you are taking either of those.
It also takes a little bit of that lifeless feeling out of workouts since you can get a bit of a pump going as long as you are using the slin.

 

[AlphaMaleDawg]

I run 10-15iu slin PWO when on DNP.
It keeps me full instead of that terrible flatness I usually have on DNP.
I used IGF1 DES before with similar results.
You just look better while on the DNP if you are taking either of those.
It also takes a little bit of that lifeless feeling out of workouts since you can get a bit of a pump going as long as you are using the slin.

Honestly if I ever did DNP again, I would do it with slin. Without it, it gives off the illusion that you lost 20lbs of muscle. It's pretty depressing.

 

[TNH]

Honestly if I ever did DNP again, I would do it with slin. Without it, it gives off the illusion that you lost 20lbs of muscle. It's pretty depressing.

I do miss the awesomeness of going from flat and bloated to full and lean once the rebound happens. But I agree, the time spendt being flat and holding water in all the wrong places really looks shitty. I carry a little inner tube of water right around my waistline that makes me look fat when I am on DNP. Having all the glucose sucked out of my shoulders and upper body really adds to the horrible square body look.

 

[scottswald]

i'm bulking at the moment but due to a huge binge after my last comp i've basically got fat along with getting big. literally no abs :-(

i decided i need to find my sweet spot with carbs for optimum gowth and minimal fat loss rather than just shovel loads in my mouth but it will be hard to tell if i'm maintaining/losing fat levels when i've got that much bf to begin with.

i've decided to use dnp to get my bf down fast and considering to continue the insulin use to keep a bit fullness during this time

 

[red5150]

if you can find a copy of Building the perfect beast by Author L Rea, there is a chapter on it, which I do believe is called poor man's IGF as b-boy said

 

[Creed428]

if you can find a copy of Building the perfect beast by Author L Rea, there is a chapter on it, which I do believe is called poor man's IGF as b-boy said

I was trying to remember where I read about it it was building the perfect beast and yes poor man's igf not hgh my mistake on that read it years ago

 

[andrew.peplin]

I looked all over and cant find that book anywhere? I am interested in what it says so please post red!