Ephedrine linked to Depression?

[ironserenity]

Hey everyone!

So staying pure for such a long time has allowed me to notice even the most subtle changes in my body and mind. One of the things I realized recently is that running an ECA stack (25mg ephedrine hcl, 200 caffeine, 1-2 aspirin) lifts me up, but at the same time seems to make me get extremely down on myself..

Now I have played in this game long enough to know when to recognize something and A.)either understand it and get through it based upon understanding the issue or B.) Eliminate the stimulus... So my question to everyone here is:

Is it a known side effect for some neuro-stims such as Ephedrine to cause depression like symptoms? If so, why does it happen from a physiological standpoint? And anyway to combat it?
Thanks!
I.S.

 

[gridlock]

Hey everyone!

So staying pure for such a long time has allowed me to notice even the most subtle changes in my body and mind. One of the things I realized recently is that running an ECA stack (25mg ephedrine hcl, 200 caffeine, 1-2 aspirin) lifts me up, but at the same time seems to make me get extremely down on myself..

Now I have played in this game long enough to know when to recognize something and A.)either understand it and get through it based upon understanding the issue or B.) Eliminate the stimulus... So my question to everyone here is:

Is it a known side effect for some neuro-stims such as Ephedrine to cause depression like symptoms? If so, why does it happen from a physiological standpoint? And anyway to combat it?
Thanks!
I.S.

i do get the same feeling. i have stayed off it because of it. what comes up must come down. and the higher you go, the further you have to fall.

 

[Flex2019]

Ephedrine doesn't tend to give me depression symptoms, but definitely acts on the mind. I find that I get short tempered and aggravated more easily on ECA. It does it to me more than any AAS I've used that's for sure.

 

[thebrick]

i do get the same feeling. i have stayed off it because of it. what comes up must come down. and the higher you go, the further you have to fall.

Me too. Like I had used my body's allotment of 12 hours of energy up in 4 hours. Which left me with nothing left.

 

[Tnoel]

Interesting theory -- if that's the case, would it have a more detrimental effect on someone who has been diagnosed with depression.

 

[ironserenity]

Interesting theory -- if that's the case, would it have a more detrimental effect on someone who has been diagnosed with depression.

Exactly my thoughts.

 

[Jekyll]

How are your adrenals? Long term use of ephedrine (and other stimulants) can lead to adrenal exhaustion and disruption of normal circadian cortisol paterns.

 

[Pumped1]

How are your adrenals? Long term use of ephedrine (and other stimulants) can lead to adrenal exhaustion and disruption of normal circadian cortisol paterns.

that is right, i was on addreal for like 3 years.... wow did that fuck my world up..
now that i am off that crap i hate to even take a decongestant ....

for myself i feel much better not messing with the stimulates, i rather diet harder.

they do make you feel good for a little but is it really worth it knowing that your going to come down further then where your started..... not for me

 

[ConanX]

When I come off ephedrine, I feel very fatigued. Not exactly depressed, just not motivated. On ephedrine, everything seems enhanced.

 

[ironserenity]

What about introducing strong doses of b12

Does introducing stronger doses of b12 help when coming off as it supposedly does for methamphetamine users?

 

[dragonfire101]

gets me angry and irritable

 

[Crom]

Never used it 24/7, that just can't be good for you, draining your body for energy that was supposed to be your reserves.

I only use before workouts, 2-3 times a week. Gives me lots of energy, love it and feel fine afterwards when it's out of my body.

 

[Big Dave Smith]

I've used low and high doses of ECA before. VERY HIGH. I've also used ephedrine independantly from caffeine.

I went clean off the insanely high doses of ECA. While on, I didn't notice any depression. OF COURSE your body will slow down once the stimulant is out of your system. That's the normal crash. The first week being off, I was constantly yawning and damn near falling asleep. I felt much more relaxed, but no psychological negatives.

I have a habit of drinking WAYYYY too much caffeine and not realizing it. If I don't drink caffeine, I'm fine. If I drink lots of caffeine early in the day, I have to maintain caffeine every 3-4 hours or else I crash hard. I time the crash with when I have to go to bed.

If I take ephedrine alone, I get more of a positive buzz than caffeine. It lasts a hair longer and doesn't give me as bad of a crash. I usually take 20-50mg.

Today I drank a 300mg caffeine ABB Speed Stack (my GOD they taste fantastic), and chased it with another one an hour later. I came home from my workout, ate with my girlfriend, and when I got home NOTHING was keeping my eyes open. Out for 2 hours.