First time IGF / T3 Fact Check

getnbig954 · Dec 1, 2006

Ok, after much research I think I have the knowledge for a IGF cycle. Please critique. I am 40 years old, 260 lbs, have trained for many years, and have done many cycles. I'm big but bf is higher than I want. Around 12% I'd like to add bulk and lean at the same time. I am thinking of the following:

gear 16 weeks
800 mg test e weekly
800 mg deca weekly
75 mg dbol daily (30 days on / 30 days off)

Cytomel 25-150mcg / day
spread dosage throughout day
6 weeks max
taper on / taper off

HGH 4-6 IU / day as long as I can afford. Atleast 2 kits.

IGF-1 Long R3 media grade
I used the following formula: 1mcg / kg / ed
1 kg = 2.2 lbs = 118mcg
Since my first time I figured I'd start with 60 and go to 100 mcg based on sides.
30 days on / 30 days off

PCT, normal tamoxifan and HCG.

Any suggestions? Modifications? Expectations?

Would it be wise to do dbol on opposite months of IGF or at same time?

Thanks!!! Any advice appreciated!

Gregg

Fa Seeshus · Dec 2, 2006

i would not run the t3 and igf at the same time. i ran t4 with igf once and thought it really negated the gains. t3 would probably do that even more.

with the t4 and igf i got very little muscle volumization and the pumps were not there. i only used between 50 and 200mcg ('equiv to about 12.5-25mcg t3)

i normally respond great to igf.

getnbig954 · Dec 6, 2006

Thanks! I'm hoping this will get me past 260 where I have been for some time.

thedonker · Dec 21, 2006

I beleive t3 and IGF work in synergy,

Zuke · Dec 21, 2006

You IGF1 dose is too high. I would go no more than 40 mcg 3X week (10mcg 4X day on Monday, Wednesday, Friday)

Do a search on IGF1 and you will find a tonne of info to help you dose.

alan1973 · Dec 21, 2006

getnbig954 said:
800 mg test e weekly
800 mg deca weekly

braver than me!

Alcatraz · Dec 22, 2006

Read this article. Good read on T4,T3, HGH, and IGF.

**broken link removed**

getnbig954 · Dec 22, 2006

Excellent article! Thanks!

Gunsmith · Dec 23, 2006

OK , so if your not running T4 with your HGH then your wasting half your money and if your running it with T3 then your wasting your time.

Seeing that I have a pile of T3 here and I can't find T4 can anybody point me in the right direction to find some?

Also I'm kinda slow but is their any down sides to running the HGH , T4 and IGF-1 together?
Sorry all this is alot for a dumb shit redneck to grasp at one time

Fa Seeshus · Dec 24, 2006

i don't want to shift the subject here, and i don't want to question your experience with gear, but why are you trying to get cut on:

800 mg test e weekly
800 mg deca weekly
75 mg dbol daily (30 days on / 30 days off)

i have great genetics for being lean, and their is no way i could get a cut look on the above, even if i did have some super gh/igf/t3 stack going.

why not forget the whole t3 and t4 thing and just switch your gear to something drier? really that would be simpler and involve less drugs.

this is not a flame or anything, just my opinion on that. igf1 and gh will work fine alone or with a moderate anabolic. why add elements that overly bloat you countered by stuff that could be catabolic? keep it simple.

igf1 and gh work without adding thyroid drugs. the whole "wasting your money" thing is hype. maybe if you were running grow for years straight, but two kits is not going to shut down your t3 levels.