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This is the email exchange that I have been involved in with a con artist that wanted to advertise here. His site is www.ironrod.cc

This is a warning on how manipulative con artists try to sucker weaker minded and low self esteem people into giving them money.

Warning - If you are obssesed with religion, don't read or you might get upset and I am not in the mood of getting involved into a religious debate.

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--- Big A <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi
>
> Please let me know what services/products you offer.
>
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Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 09:46:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: "IronRod®" <[email protected]> Add to Address Book
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My corporation sells program that are the reinvention
of bodybuilaind and as a whole are more powerful than
steroids. Also if your site is getting 65 million
hits a month Then I can get all of your sites approved
for Kanoodle for your 2 sites and we can split the
revenue. 65 million hits I assume means anywhere from
100,000 to 1,000,000 visitors a month which means we
could be grossing at least $100,000 a month from
people just clicking on the Kanoodle sites. Let me
know you are interested and I will get your sites
approved and give you the codes and tell you where to
put them and I will transfer your cut every other
month to a PayPal account or how ever you want to take
care of the trasnaction. Talk to you soon, Nick
Frolos
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--- Big A <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi
>
> Kanoodle is like Google ads. I have always stayed
> away
> from that as I believe it affects the flow of the
> site
> too much.
>
> As well, why would I need to go through you? I
> looked
> at Kanoodle and I could easily just sign up myself.
> I don't see the benefit.
>
> And I don't know you, and since I do get up to
> 1.1mil
> unique users each month, that would be a lot of
> money
> to let you control when I have no idea who you are.
>
> You see, there's a lot of issues like these that
> would
> need to be resolved first.
>
> Big A
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Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 05:56:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: "IronRod®" <[email protected]> Add to Address Book
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Well who I am is an annointed man of God. If you do
not know what that means I can tell you that we make
up less than 1% of everyone who has ever lived.
Therefore the money that we would split via the
Kanoodle ads would actually be all of your money that
you are making the choice to sew 50% of into my
annointing, a very wise decision. Kanoodle is much
better than Google in the sense that thier ads pay
more and never run out and also how they automatically
open in a new window so the visitor never leaves your
site. You can go a head and set it up for your own
self and whther or not you decide to sew into my
annointing will be your choice. But if you are
interested I am already in with Kanoodle and can have
you site approved maybe by the end of the day and we
can start making money tomorrow. I am not sure if you
understand the importance of sewing but if you are not
cureently sewing into the annointing of any great man
of God then I highly recomend you sew into mine
starting now. If you are currently sewing then I
recomend a portion of the seed you are sewing now be
sewn into my annointing. In order for money to be
considered seed for an annointing it takes a minimum
20% of your income. Giving me 50% of the Kanoodle ads
money should cover that and then some where you are
concerned. Thank You, Nick Frolos
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Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 06:20:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: "B A" <[email protected]> Add to Address Book
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To: "IronRod®" <[email protected]>


Well, it's anointed not annointed.
And how do you know that I am not an anointed man
myself and as such I am sewing with myself?

Also, how come all the self proclaimed religious
prophets always ask for money? If indeed they are
chosen by God, shouldn't they be spreading goodness
around without looking to get personal gains in
return? Isn't this what most brain washing, I mean
religions, teach?

When I say God, I mean the power that controls
everything, not 'God' the way religions make it out
that one being controls everything because that is
plain garbage.
I am a spiritual person and I can personally interact
with spirits. This has been proven scientifically (I
am a physics major), and I feel sorry for all the poor
people out there that believe religions which have no
basis in science.

You should be ashamed of yourself praying on people's
weaknesses and their self esteem.
You pray on their mental weakness feeding them garbage
that they should send you money because you are chosen
by God.

You pray on their low self esteem by selling a
bodybuilding program which appears to be garbage as
well. You proclaim that it works better that steroids?
Stop lying.

And if you are a religious man that supposedly has
found this perfect muscle growth formula, shouldn't
you, as a chosen son of God, share it freely with the
less fortunate who are seeking to improve their body
and self esteem?

Here is an article I wrote about muscle growth, which
has helped thousands of people achieve their
bodybuilding goals, a formula that has never failed:
http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1158

And I share it freely with the world, like it should
be, as I am not a con artist like you Nick Frolos!

Big A
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Owner:
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Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 06:41:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: "IronRod®" <[email protected]> Add to Address Book
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I stopped reading when you asked me how do I know you
are not anointed. What a person has to go through to
get the annointing is not what many people are cut out
for to say the least. If I were to explain to you
what it takes to get the anointing in your current
state of mind you will wish I never told you. I am
not saying that you will never get the annointing for
yourself, I am just saying that you are not ready at
this time. Now on to your next point about money.
Jesus is the creator of the monetary system and as an
anointed,(have to keep going back to make sure I only
put 1 "n" in it for you), as an anointied man of God I
own the monetary system equally with Jesus. As much
of an owner of that system as Jesus is, I am also.
Money has 1 purpose and 1 purpose only, to build
temples so Jesus has a place to dwell. Anyone who is
not anointed by Jesus to build these temples and has
money in their hands is a thief and breaks the
comandment of "Thou Shalt Not Steal" every moment of
everyday. Jesus is more than fair when it comes to
helping these people. He says to give 10% to the
Church(me) and the remaining 90% will become yours and
therefore you will no longer be a theif and still have
90% of what you had before. 10% is only enough to be
considered as a person who does not rob Jesus. Sewing
into an anointing is is far beyond this. Giving the
10% will not even insure that you will be able to keep
what you currently have let alone cause you to
increase the 20% minimum I have been called by Jesus
to demad is far more for the other person's benefit
than mine. I already own this world and everything in
it. As owner of the monetary system I can make any
money go whereever I want it to. How do you think Ted
Turner lost over $7 billion and Donald Trump lost his
casinos and over $3.2 billion? That was me who did
those things just to name a few. You menioned the
word "religious". I am in no way religious. I am a
born again Christian who has the anointing of Christ
which means I am 100% anit religion just like Jesus.
I skimmed down to about half of what you wrote and saw
your unGodly ramblings. The choice to sew into my
anointing by doing the Kanoodle deal is something that
is crucial for you to do right now. From what you
said I can see that you are most likely not even saved
at this time. Being saved is a free gift and you
never have to sew into my anointing to get saved or
stay saved. Therefore from my anointing I relase the
power for you to be saved by Jesus at this moment.
Recieve him and allow him in. We will talk sewing
after that has happened. I am here to help you
always, Nick Frolos
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Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 07:15:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: "B A" <[email protected]> Add to Address Book
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If you stopped reading after my first question, then
how can you answer questions about what I wrote later
on?

And again my question, how do you know that I am not
and have not gone through everything and more than you
have?

So you are responsible for Trump and Turner losing billions?
Wow, and here I was thinking it was bad management!

To me, from a scientific point of view, it is more
probable that Jesus was either an alien or a time
traveller.
He raised from the dead - how about he was in a coma
or simply passed out from the shock of being nailed to
a piece of wood and dehydrated/loss of blood/etc, and
his 'shipmates' simply resuscitated him?

If you travelled back in time, how would the people
from two thousand years ago describe your hand held
tv, or jetpack or helicopter or walkie talkie or the
clear piece of plastic you hold in your hand? You
would be a God to them! Or the son of God if you give
them a good speach.

Remember Azekiel coming down in a chariot of flames,
clouds and thunder? The Eagle module that landed on
the moon was made exactly as per the description of
that biblical story (this is a fact)- God or
technology?

From a scientific (provable) point of view, my theory
about Jesus is more believable and probable.

So I am a thief if I don't build Jesus homages? But I
thought you said that he was anti religion? Then why
does he ask for my money to be spent on him? Sounds
like any early morning televangelist to me, or like
you.

So money's only purpose is to be spent on Jesus? How
about money should be spent on people to advance them
emotionally, physically and spiritually so they can
become more fullfilled and happy? Wouldn't Jesus
rather have me spend money on helping other human
beings in surviving, rather than spend it on homages
to him?

You think that if you were divine, like you proclaim,
people would sense your divinity and come to you of
their own accord, you wouldn't have to go out trying
to fish for money.

So if I send you money, somehow Jesus, a symbol, will
benefit? Or are you going to buy another house or car?
I personally know a con artist just like you that goes
to his church driving a blue Lamborghini that he even
has the audacity to have personalised number plates on
it that say 'Halelujah'. And the poor bastards that he
preaches his anointement to believe the sewage that
comes out of his mouth!

Listen here, why don't you do something constructive
to others with your time and stop scamming them with
your religious and bodybuilding secret speaches.
Because one day, all this will come back and bite you
in the arse.

Con artists like you always end up going down.
Karma is true and it will get you - each force has an
equal and oposing force - basic physics.
So all the scamming you put out there, will end up in
one massive negative energy ball that will destroy
your life.

If you have read this far, you would see now that
actually I AM THE ONE TRYING TO SAVE YOU!

Enjoy your days, because the more you scam the worse
your future will be :)

Big A
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Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 07:28:34 -0700 (PDT)
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I do not need to read further because I know how to
deal with your type. From the things you sated in
this e-mail I can see that you have allowed satan to
really do a number on you. You have what I refer to
as "new age homosexual nonsense" sewn deep within you.
It was the same type of thing the late Trevor Smith
in our industry had and you know what happened to him.
He is screaming from the bottom pit of hell at this
very moment. I had personal e-mail talks with him the
same kind as I am with you right now. He crossed a
line and I ordered my angels to kill him and about 18
months later he was dead of a "brain aneurysm".
People like you for some reason like to talk about
science. I never heard of the science you people talk
about and that is because it does not exist. Real
science has prooven the word of God true several times
over and the 2 greatest scientific minds who have ever
lived, Sir Issac Newton and Albert Einstein were bolth
born again Christains. As for being raised from the
dead this is a power that I and any great man of God
worth his salt has. It is called the anointing to
heal the sick and raise the dead. To date I have only
healed the sick and prevented them from dying but
other great men of God such as Dr. Creflo Dollar have
raised up people who were dead using that same
anointing. I can see that we are not going to get you
very far with just talk. For your own good let me get
your sites approved for Kanoodle on my account, put
the ads on your site, and let me have half. The seed
that you will be sewing into my anointing with that
50% will harvest the power you need to break the hold
satan has over your life. In Jesus Name, Nick Frolos

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Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 07:40:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Big A" <[email protected]> Add to Address Book
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You just don't give up do you?

Here's another question - isn't killing someone a sin?
You killed Trevor, then you are a sinner in the eyes
of God, Jesus and whoemever else you preach.

So you control dark angels? That means that you are a
fallen soul and you are related to the Anti-Christ.
So you are in cahoots with Satan

I always thought Einstein was jewish.

You are a child (mentally) grow up and stop trying to
scam people.

I am not wasting any more time on you so don't bother
replying.

Big A

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Now I am pissed off that I stayed up past my bed time to deal with this moron. :eek:
 
damn

That shit was fucked up. Some people are so fucked up. Send hi a virus or something. Better yet let's post his email address on some gay websites.
 
He just threatened to kill me.

So I called him, but all I keep getting is his answering machine. Dumb fuck doen't even know how to protect himself, yet he spews shit out of his mouth.

Maybe a visit to St Louis is in order.
 
Now he's backtracking. Looks like an extorsion case to me!

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Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 08:07:00 -0700 (PDT)
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I got your message on my machine and just to clear up
I never said I was going to kill you nor did I say I
was going to have my angels kill you. I told you I
put the order of destroy in on your head for my angels
to carry out. The destruction, when it comes, will
not kill you directly but you will have never known
that kind of pain even exisited. You can put a stop
to the destruction order if you obey the word Jesus
gave to me to give to you starting with the Kanoodle
ads money. Make 1 small mustard sized seed step
towards the truth and you will be astonished. As it
stand at this moment my angels have been relased on
the destruction order that you and only you have the
ability to stop by making the right decision. Nick
Frolos
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wtf....this takes the cake of all of the stuppid shit combined which i have ever seen or heard....damn. Send a crew to his residence nad introduce him to the concept of throwing weight around...preferably dead weight (his). Md
 
Sad...

Unfortunately, his religious nonsense and extremist ideas are shared by a great deal more than one percent of everyone who's ever lived.

I've often wondered how religion can have such a hold on people, and the only reason I've come up with so far is that this is just where man is in his evolution. He has not evolved past the need for absolute certainty, even if that maens empbracing a preposterous answer.
 
LMAO damn Big A your pretty smart. You have a rebuttle for every damn thing he said and u made him look like an idiot. I love it. Looks like he dont know his own religion haha. Jesus a time traveler tho? ummm lol
 
What fruittcake. :D
 
I don't know... He seemed pretty reasonable to me...He only wanted half and he would put the other half in your pay pal account. Heck I'm sending money to this chick in Africa who is stuck in a hotel right now just to help her get out of the country. She says we are going to get married when she gets here!!!!
 
Holy cow what a whacko!!!
 
I cant stand these psycho religious freaks! Im gonna write down his email and harass him for a while...just for kicks. :) Im also friends with a very good computer programmer..I dont know if he knows about hacking but he's a real computer nerd lol, ill see if he can fuck with this asshole a bit. I wont mention any of this unless you want me to, I just wanna do it for my own sake.
 
just a question(might look stupid now) but the thing about you beeing a physics major and the thing about spiritual connections beeing scientificly proven. Was that something you wrote just to piss him off or is it true? Reason Im asking is because I am studying physics and have a big interested in ghosts/spirits ect.
 
I know you didn't want a religious discussion but here's my 2 cents:

I'm all for what Big A did....this guy he was dealing with was no Christian and based on the little bit that he wrote you he is in defiance of a lot of what the Bible says. He says that he and only a select few people are "anointed by God". I would tell him to read the Bible as it says that anyone who believes in Jesus is anointed...there is nothing you have to do, no process to go through.

What a nut...good job running him off!

As a Christian myself I hate when wackos like this make us look like bad people...but again all most people see is negative press.

Anyway, laters....
 
Please tell me...

this was for entertainment purposes only. That guy is one sick bastard and Big A i would watch out for those bounty toting Angels! lol.
 
LMAO, that was beautiful. I'm surprised it even went past Big A's second email.
 
What is really sad as we never know how many people actually fall for this type of BS. I bet it's higher then any of us think.
Many people rake in millions of dollars on the backs of religious beliefs.
 

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