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Got gyno already...running drol and d-bol and prolly deca

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Well during my last cycle i ran into a few problems with gyno while doing some high doses of test e. I am planning my next cycle and will prolly go ahead and All-Out bulk and use some d-bol, deca, and drol for the cycle. I developed gyno and started running nolva..and then ran letro after the cycle but I still have the lumps under my nips and dont want them to get ANY WORSE AT ALL!!! gotta be very careful and wanted to get some opinions on what to do here...I always thought i would be able to see the gyno coming on but it sorta snuck up on me i guess and I DO NOT want this to happen again next cycle. Any tips or advice on how i could successfully run these compounds while not flaring up the gyno please share guys.

Thanks so much,

RONJON
 
Surgery

Getting my "Mammary glands" cut out was the best $2200 bucks I EVER spent. Had it done the moment I started feeling that itch. After, my chest had a squarer, more tucked appearance than before, and problem solved forever. :)
 
you have gyno, you want to bulk, you want to eat 7500cals a day, you want to go all out with the drugs that are notorius for gyno. You my friend have not thought this out at all. You are asking for trouble. But maybe some things are best left to be learned the hard way!!! put down all the nolva, arimidex, letro you want. 7500cals is going to build a great pair of tits, just keep the hair shaved and you have your own set to play with!!!
 
you have gyno, you want to bulk, you want to eat 7500cals a day, you want to go all out with the drugs that are notorius for gyno. You my friend have not thought this out at all. You are asking for trouble. But maybe some things are best left to be learned the hard way!!! put down all the nolva, arimidex, letro you want. 7500cals is going to build a great pair of tits, just keep the hair shaved and you have your own set to play with!!!

LMAO
 
OF is correct and damn funny. The money you are planning on spending on the cycle would be better spent on surgery IMHO. Say you put on 10-20lbs of muscle but make the Gyno worse. Then you will be trying to find the money for surgery and lose some of your gains while you recover. There will be time to bulk after that.

-OC- You got a quality job done for $2200 bucks? PM me a little info on Dr. and location please, I am looking to have it done in 2009. Thanks
 
bump on what old fella siad Arimadex should help BUT all thos androgens are gonna create a ton of estrogen
 
you have gyno, you want to bulk, you want to eat 7500cals a day, you want to go all out with the drugs that are notorius for gyno. You my friend have not thought this out at all. You are asking for trouble. But maybe some things are best left to be learned the hard way!!! put down all the nolva, arimidex, letro you want. 7500cals is going to build a great pair of tits, just keep the hair shaved and you have your own set to play with!!!

let me 2nd that with another LMAO:D
 
use the word prolly and I think you're a 18 year old zit faced loser who spends your between facebook and myspace . You're looking to use steroids without any real idea of what consistency, hard training, diet is all in an effort to mack chicks. Tell your mom hi when she gets home from work and make sure to thank her when she cleans your room.:eek:
 
lets not jump down this guys throat!

did he say something alittle stupid? YES. havent we all? probably. if you want an all out bulking cycle go over to intense muscle and read the sticky cycle for pennies. as for the AAS whats wrong with 500mg test a week and the right diet and training? if your prone to gyno you should stay away from drol and d-bol and deca! read up on how these chemicals induce gyno in the first place. once you have a solid understanding of how this happens youll know how to minimize your chances of it occuring. surgury may be the only way you can get rid of it but my advice is dont make it worse. post your diet and training plan and well see if we can get you the muscle you want without this sides you dont want. but you have to do your own homework as well.
 
Getting my "Mammary glands" cut out was the best $2200 bucks I EVER spent. Had it done the moment I started feeling that itch. After, my chest had a squarer, more tucked appearance than before, and problem solved forever. :)



2200? how bad was it? I have just a tiny little bit on one side, but its driving me nuts to have something under my skin.

would one expect to pay less for a less involved procedure?

is it local anesthesia or do they put you out? i would imagine that impacts the cost quite a bit if its general.
 
Aw shite. I was going to chime in but Oldfella already nailed it on the head.
Yeah, what you mentioned will only bloat you and give you a great pair...
 
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yea ...since i posted this i have decided (along with your help) that this would be a bad idea... i am hooking up with Phil and going to get some expert advice on where i should go from here in my diet, training, and supplementing...

also OC i forgot to ask but ...do you have and before and after pics so i could get an idea of what u look like before and after gyno surgery bro???
 
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2200? how bad was it? I have just a tiny little bit on one side, but its driving me nuts to have something under my skin.

would one expect to pay less for a less involved procedure?

is it local anesthesia or do they put you out? i would imagine that impacts the cost quite a bit if its general.

I did it before it got "Bad", matter of fact you really couldn't see it, but it could be felt, and it would itch sometimes.

There were two reasons Beta I had it done EARLY, One it was per advice from other BB'ers and Dr. Wustrack (My surgeon), I was told by more than one source if you decide to have it done, it's BEST to have it done before your nips get "Too" puffy, or to the point it will be bad enough to slightly stretch the areola thus permanently changing it's appearance. The way it was explained to me that if you had it done as almost a "Preemption" that the results will have a higher chance of a pleasing/natural look.

The other reason being that unlike now with the wealth of good info like this board (I think back in '94 I was still looking at a DOS screen on my 386, lol) on estro and hormone management, I felt like there were no real tools, or guide (Well a reliable one) that I could follow with personal confidence to control this issue.
So instead of flying blind, and after seeing some examples of "Man Boobs" I said "Cut em out now".

They did "Put me out" Via Pills + IV. I fell asleep quickly early in the day, and woke up in the afternoon. I went home groggy, and stayed that way until the middle of the next day.

I really can't answer the question about if it's a "Less involved procedure", I don't know. Hope this helps.:)

yea ...since i posted this i have decided (along with your help) that this would be a bad idea... i am hooking up with Phil and going to get some expert advice on where i should go from here in my diet, training, and supplementing...

also OC i forgot to ask but ...do you have and before and after pics so i could get an idea of what u look like before and after gyno surgery bro???

VERY GOOD IDEA RONJON! I learned a WEALTH of great info on training from Phil back when he lived by here in 1995. I still use many of the principles, techniques to this day with great results.

Recently he gave me some pointers that were a huge help. And I can't wait to hire him to drive my training home.

I don't have useful before pics. I will snap a web cam (That's all I have) pic of my chest and either send it to ya or post. I have to wait for the "Opportune" time, some people here might think it's strange if I start "Peeling off" and hold the cam in front of my, well, you get the idea.

But I can describe what I have now as a long term result of my surgery. When I push on the entire nip and surrounding area there is no "Lumpiness" or difference in thickness of the skin/fat at all. If I take my hands and stretch the nip area you can still see a hairline scar the thickness of a business card running the lower half of the nipple. It is not raised, or "Nasty" at all, you have to really strain to see it, especially now that I am tan. I hope this new info helps you RON, take care. -OC-
 
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