Growth principles for beginners

HELLA SWOLE · Dec 8, 2005

BigA, you say that as logn as your getting bloodwork done, and the results are good and you are cycling orals every other four weeks that there is no reason to come off AAS. Are you saying that if everythign is fine (bloodwork wise) that there is no problem with staying on forever? Or are you saying there is no reason to stop your CYCLE short? WHat about bloodpressure? I know nolva should help, but a lot of ppl still get High BP even when using anti-e's.

Also, do you drop your weights WAY down to be able to do your reps at the tempo you mentioned? FOr instance, if I could bang out 315 5 times on BB bench, would I have to drop down to say 225-275lbs so that I could perform the reps in the tempo your mentioned?

THanks man for the help.

Testo^ · Dec 9, 2005

Hey, i am new to this forum, but i have bothered BIG A on some other forums

Anyhow, i was wondering, this is a question to the people who use this program.. How do you guys get the maximum out of 1 set ? When i do my warm ups and do my real set, i feel like i can do more sets with no problems, and i am sure that i do the set to failure.

I have no doubt in the program, dont get me wrong..

And i am also wondering how long a training session like this should last ?

Big A · Dec 10, 2005

HELLA SWOLE said:
BigA, you say that as logn as your getting bloodwork done, and the results are good and you are cycling orals every other four weeks that there is no reason to come off AAS. Are you saying that if everythign is fine (bloodwork wise) that there is no problem with staying on forever?

Correct. But it will not be forever as eventually you will stop growing.

HELLA SWOLE said:
WHat about bloodpressure? I know nolva should help, but a lot of ppl still get High BP even when using anti-e's.

Blood pressure checks are part of your regular medical checks. If that is high, that is reason to stop the gear.

HELLA SWOLE said:
Also, do you drop your weights WAY down to be able to do your reps at the tempo you mentioned? FOr instance, if I could bang out 315 5 times on BB bench, would I have to drop down to say 225-275lbs so that I could perform the reps in the tempo your mentioned?

Weights are individual. What's heavey for one person is light for another.
You do the heaviest weigth yoou can for the designated amount of reps and tempo.

HELLA SWOLE · Dec 10, 2005

Thanks for the reply Big A. I am thinking about using this routine starting in january when I start bulking and using my "supps"

HELLA SWOLE · Dec 10, 2005

BTW, what you recommend to help blood pressure? As mine even gets slightly above normal when off cycle...eventhough Im in good shape and at around 9% BF? More anti-e's? Maybe very low dose diuretic??

Testo^ · Dec 13, 2005

Hey people, i have a question...

is it possible to tran like this instead of the one that BIG A said..

Chest, Shoulders, Biceps

and

Back, Abs, Triceps?

xcelbeyond · Dec 13, 2005

Since a primary muscle involved with chest and shoulders is triceps, why not do:

Chest, shoulders, triceps
Back, Biceps, Abs
(when are you doing legs?)

A primary muscle involved with back is biceps. I've worked these bodyparts together.

You never want to be in the gym longer than an hour - unless your trying to pickup a gal

Testo^ · Dec 13, 2005

Yea, but i cant do a ordinary biceps workout after a hard back workout if you know what i mean ?

Thats why i think this was a good idea.. Im training my legs at wednesday.

Big A · Dec 14, 2005

Testo^ said:
Yea, but i cant do a ordinary biceps workout after a hard back workout if you know what i mean ?

Why not? Because your biceps are tired from the back workout? Well, that means that the biceps were worked hard during the back workout too. Which means the specialised bicep workout is just doing the final touches for the biceps as they are exhausted from back anyway, which means that they are stimulated.

However, if you can't do biceps properly after back because you lack energy, then yes, you can change the program the way you suggested.

Testo^ · Dec 15, 2005

ok, thx for the reply.. . I have 1 last question... What is the best time to do cardio when you use that program ?

Big A · Dec 16, 2005

Testo^ said:
ok, thx for the reply.. . I have 1 last question... What is the best time to do cardio when you use that program ?

Morning, before breakfast.

Testo^ · Dec 18, 2005

I guess that by saying that you mean the morning on my workout days right ? and not the resting days ?

hompie · Dec 28, 2005

Big A , almost everybody is talking about training a muscle more often then 1 time a week. With your program its still once a week.
Dont you think its required?

SFINX · Dec 28, 2005

HELLA SWOLE said:
BTW, what you recommend to help blood pressure? As mine even gets slightly above normal when off cycle...eventhough Im in good shape and at around 9% BF? More anti-e's? Maybe very low dose diuretic??

Anti-e are possible,but too much of them is not good.
Low dose diuretic is also possible among others,ask your doctor.

Also,keep your diet in check.

www.nhlbi.nih.gov/hbp/bp/bp.htm

Big A · Dec 28, 2005

Testo^ said:
I guess that by saying that you mean the morning on my workout days right ? and not the resting days ?

It depends on how much fat you want to lose. If it is one way or the other, I personally prefer the rest days, as remember, cardio is not supposed to be so intensive that it puts any stress on the muscles or recovery.

Big A · Dec 28, 2005

hompie said:
Big A , almost everybody is talking about training a muscle more often then 1 time a week. With your program its still once a week.
Dont you think its required?

I really don't see it necessary. Of course, individual conditions apply, and some 'might' benefit by training smaller muscle groups, such as abs more than once a week.

Tough Old Man · Dec 30, 2005

di8kids said:
I was explaining the way you have "Growth Principles for Beginners" to my husband and that I got it off of "Professionalmuscles.com." He's never been on the website.

This is what he said to me: He said that I shouldn't listen to those bozos. They didn't know what they were talking about. If I needed to know anything, I should ask him or Phil--that Phil is the expert.

What's that suppose to mean?

Maybe your husband should look at this website and then tell you that we are all bozo's. I admit that there is a lot of info giving at time to time that doesn't make any sense at all. These are usually from idiots that just start training and think they know everything. I'm 53 and been at it for a long time and I still find good info on a lot of the bodybuilding sites. If your husband is a weightlifter and thinks that we are all a bunch of bozo's, he must think he already knows everything and these are the one's that I laugh at.

Tough