gyno question

btmhwb · Sep 17, 2004

Ok, I need a bit of advice. I posted a thread about gyno a bit ago and got some great responses, but I just have one question. To give a bit of history, I ran 75 mgs tren alone for about 7 weeks, then took two off and then ran deca @ 500 mgs, per week and test @ 1000 mgs per week for about 10 weeks. I developed a bit of gyno, and I wan't sure what kind it was, so I ran nolva for about two weeks and stopped the gear and didn't notice a difference. I did a bit of reading and found that i probably have progesterone induced gyno because I have a very small amount of discharge from my nips if i squeeze them, and the glands are a bit swollen. I ran out of the nolva, so I am currently taking liquid arimadex (.25 mg/ day) vitex, and b6 @ 200 mgs per day. My final question is, with this combination of progesterone and estrogen fighting compounds, do you think it would be okay to run another 75 mg's of tren for 4 weeks? The reason I ask is because I am doing my first show and want to get that hard lean look that I pbtain from trenbelone. Any response Is well appreciated. Thanks, btmhwb

xcelbeyond · Sep 17, 2004

This is the million dollar question - and to make it worse, you used both tren and deca.

It could be related to:
1) progesterone
2) prolactin
3) overly elevated IGF-1 levels

I'm not sure what to take to combat progesterone related other than the drug RU-XX (birth-control/abort drug - don't remember name). Winny competes for the progesterone receptor, but it's unsure if the amount we take is useful/enough. I believe some have stated bromocriptine will help.

For prolactin related, bromocriptine works.

If it's from overly elevated IGF-1 levels, nolva is suppose to remedy this (reduces IGF-1).

BCC · Sep 17, 2004

Xcel pretty much summed it up nicely. (I think RU-486 is what you were referring to).

When I thought I was having a bit of a progesterone problem 25mgs of winny ED seemed to clear it up. But like xcel said, there are just so many factors.

btmhwb · Sep 17, 2004

tren?

so in your opinion, should I run some winny and tren for the show or cut them both out and see if the gyno recedes a bit. The only thing I am worried about is losing muscle for the show. Thanks for your replies.