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Hello new here, got a few q's on my cycle

juicemygoose

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hello ladys and gents my name is Goose,
I've been on HRT for about 4 1/2 years 200mgs a week of t.cyp and as of the last year they started giving me cyp. Anyway I've ran a few cycles in my time but my new cycle is:

T prop = 600mg weekly 3 times a week 10 weeks
tren a = 300mg weekly 3 times a week for 6 weeks
IGF-1 LR3 50mcg after every workout and on weekends 20mcgs for 6 weeks
winny 525mg weekly (75mg ed) starting at week 6 ending at week 10

Letro on hand in case for gyno flares (but I'm not to pron)
.5mg armidex starting 3 weeks in e3d running to week 11
250ius HCG starting week 7 e3d starting at week 6 to week 12
Clomid 100mg from week 11 - 12
Clomid 50mg from week 12-13
Clomid 25mg from week 13-14
Armidex .5 eod 11-14
t3/clen/keto Pyrmid up>peak a week>down from week 10-14
ECA stack from 14-16
then a 40mg lasix ed from week 16-17

And I hope to be in contest condition, I am looking to enter some beginer BB competitions, Anyone know of any in the North East?

What do you think of the cycle and PCT should I add Mast prop? Or Frag 176-191? should I cut back something? Add something? Please any info would be great.

BTW I'm running a sponsors gear I don't know if I'm allowed to say. But I have some clear pics as well of the gear. If I am allowed I'll post them.

:headbang:
-Goose
 

OuchThatHurts

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hello ladys and gents my name is Goose,
I've been on HRT for about 4 1/2 years 200mgs a week of t.cyp and as of the last year they started giving me cyp. Anyway I've ran a few cycles in my time but my new cycle is:

T prop = 600mg weekly 3 times a week 10 weeks
tren a = 300mg weekly 3 times a week for 6 weeks
IGF-1 LR3 50mcg after every workout and on weekends 20mcgs for 6 weeks
winny 525mg weekly (75mg ed) starting at week 6 ending at week 10

Letro on hand in case for gyno flares (but I'm not to pron)
.5mg armidex starting 3 weeks in e3d running to week 11
250ius HCG starting week 7 e3d starting at week 6 to week 12
Clomid 100mg from week 11 - 12
Clomid 50mg from week 12-13
Clomid 25mg from week 13-14
Armidex .5 eod 11-14
t3/clen/keto Pyrmid up>peak a week>down from week 10-14
ECA stack from 14-16
then a 40mg lasix ed from week 16-17
letro, dex, clomid, hcg, wha??? If it were me, I don't know if you've already entered yourself or not, but I would extend everything out to 24 weeks, do the tren for the first 6 weeks and the last 6-12 weeks. Drop the clomid altogether and stick with the letro (or aromasin is better but ya got letro so there it is). Taper off the letro and the end of the 24 weeks starting after your last dose of test. Run the winstrol for the last 6-12 weeks. The ECA is fine but the lasix is ... well, just know what you're doing. HCG 3 times a week, 250-400iu all the way through.

What are you going to do in 3 months? Even with all that? Try 6 months. Maybe add some masteron in there somewhere as well. That's my opinion. I don't tip toe through the tulips on this shit.

This is just what I would do. I'm not advocating it for anyone else.
 

juicemygoose

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Have not started the cycle yet. And was wondering do you think that the IGF-1 LR3 will help muscle gain much or should I drop it to save some money because I havn't ordered it yet. I herd tren and IGF-1 LR3 really is great with tren helps in muscle gain and fat loss. But have no clue.

I've decied to cut my cycle back to 300/50/50/50 test e, test p, tren a, mast p then winny later

I am also going to keep the clomid around for the end of the cycle i respond well to it, but I will be running exemestane, HCG, and armidex. Thanks for the advice and be that I am cutting back on the amount of tren and test prop and adding mast p. I cut the dosage in half and am extending it the full 24 weeks.

Let me know about that IGF thing.. and if you think another peptide would do better let me know. Thanks!
 

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You need to pin the Test Prop and Tren A ED or EOD. If you pin them just 3 times per week not only will your levels look like a roller coaster the sides are gonna be worse.
 

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You need to pin the Test Prop and Tren A ED or EOD. If you pin them just 3 times per week not only will your levels look like a roller coaster the sides are gonna be worse.
I agree to that on the prop as it's half life is 2 days, so eod is ideal, but ace is 3 days, so mwf is fine for that. but if you are pinning eod, you might as well add the tren to it.
 

juicemygoose

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3 times a week is just about every other day. MWF just no SatSun. Figured there can't be that much of a change but ok. and so what you other guys are saying is that if I am on HRT which consists of test c at 200mg/week and clomid 50mg a day that I dont need a PCT?? But don't I need at least take something in case gyno flares up and balls shrink. Something to easy back in the my HRT when I am done with the cycle?
 

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3 times a week is just about every other day. MWF just no SatSun. Figured there can't be that much of a change but ok. and so what you other guys are saying is that if I am on HRT which consists of test c at 200mg/week and clomid 50mg a day that I dont need a PCT?? But don't I need at least take something in case gyno flares up and balls shrink. Something to easy back in the my HRT when I am done with the cycle?
Yea. PCT is to restart your bodies natural production. No need if your cruising or on HRT. If your doc has you on clomid or HCG for your HRT I'd continue that unchanged, during and after. You do need something to control the extra estrogen, armidex has you covered there. 200mg a week is more than enough to shut you down, your balls won't shrink any more on a higher dose. No need to do anything special to go back on HRT, just finish your cycle and switch back to your normal program.

I'd say the IGF is a waste of money, but some guys like it. Won't hurt to throw it in if cash isn't a issue.
 

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I agree to that on the prop as it's half life is 2 days, so eod is ideal, but ace is 3 days, so mwf is fine for that. but if you are pinning eod, you might as well add the tren to it.
that may be true for ace, however for me, when i pin it ed, i get almost 0 sides even with moderate test. if i go eod, i start to get sides. that's just me though.
 

OuchThatHurts

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3 times a week is just about every other day. MWF just no SatSun. Figured there can't be that much of a change but ok. and so what you other guys are saying is that if I am on HRT which consists of test c at 200mg/week and clomid 50mg a day that I dont need a PCT?? But don't I need at least take something in case gyno flares up and balls shrink. Something to easy back in the my HRT when I am done with the cycle?
Your balls won't shrink at all if you were to use HCG as I outlined above. PCT will not "jumpstart" your body's hormone producton. Only time will do that. If you have to have some kind of therapy after your cycle, it should be to optimize, to the best of your ability, the the discomfort of a low test environment until test increases again. What are common effects post cycle?

lethargy/depression? Increase serotonin and dopamine.
limp dick? Increase sex drive.
low testosterone? lower estrogen to keep ratio more normal.
shrunken balls? Increase testicular weight with HCG, HMG
immune system low? antioxidants, B-complex, zinc, etc.
weak? Increase creatine and electrolytes.
low GnRH production/shut down due to AAS usage? NOTHING IN THE FUCKING WORLD PEOPLE. Geeeez... forget it already. It's okay, you bought it, I did too, at first. But it's bullshit.

All these things above will help make you feel better but nothing in the g'damn world is going to magically cause GnRH pulsation again until it's ready to.

Also what do you think about the IGF? Waste of cash?
I love the stuff - especially when coming off! Along with increased creatine as well (and GH if you can afford it). I normally don't take much creatine when on because of the bloat.
 

juicemygoose

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I see an Endocrinologist and he didn't even wanna put me on clomid. I wish I could find a good HRT doctor around here in the Catskills. I would love a script for HCG. Maybe I can ask my primary care for it, shes pretty cool. Thank you for all the advice.
 

OuchThatHurts

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I see an Endocrinologist and he didn't even wanna put me on clomid. I wish I could find a good HRT doctor around here in the Catskills. I would love a script for HCG. Maybe I can ask my primary care for it, shes pretty cool. Thank you for all the advice.
I would too. Tried as I might, my endo was convinced I could make a mistake and end up over-stimulating my leydig cells.

Clomid is pretty safe. Safe and all but useless. I'll never touch tamoxifen again. and letro, arimidex, and Aromasin are the only ones I'll use but Aromasin is great for me. No lipid issues, heck, I think it actually helps my gains. And you have to pony up for the cabergoline. I don't care how expensive it is. All these raise prolactin. You don't even need to take it on a schedule - just a few weeks here or there. I wouldn't even use AAS if I didn't have a supply of HCG to go along. Cialis is a good one. Very few side-effects, boners for days, and great pumps in the gym (believe it). Here's my PCT protocol:

Cymbalta or Prozac (fluoxetine) - starting 4 weeks before last dose of anything
Dositinex (cabergoline) - as needed sort of... couple times during, constantly after
Aromasin (exemestane) - the whole damn way from start to finish
HCG (but only for a few weeks) - during cycle and then ween off after
PDE-5 inhibitor (Viagra, Cialis, Levitra) - as needed LOL
C-complex, B-complex, L-dopa, 5-htp, creatine - ramp up after use

None of these will "jumpstart" shit. But they'll make you feel one hell of a lot better until your shit starts itself. You'll feel better. You'll be fucking and still if getting hear, be able to rest your balls on her nose. And remember... there is no such thing as "cycling". You either commit or you don't. "Cycling" is like sticking your toe in the water, then your foot, then your ankle, then your calf... point is you'll never get fully wet. And with your stardard "PCT" never will she!
 

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