interpretation: Sperm count is low and they move like drunken retards. Your been on test for 8 years, this is all expected. Getting off the night before is a minor issue compared to 8 yrs of continuous test, even at TRT. If you wanna get your sperm count up you need to come off test completely. As you can see, HCG while on test does nothing! I have a friends protocol where he went from no sperm to like 70 million in 80 days. But it is a long, miserable, low T, low energy 80 days. Just because you are low T in that time does not mean you will be low sperm.
With all due respect, you are incorrect in saying that "HCG while on test does nothing" and that he needs to come off test completely to get his sperm count up.
I and many other men, who have used test and other steroids for years, have increased sperm counts and fathered children without ever coming off of test. HCG certainly can increase sperm count in men on TRT, and HCG + HMG or HCG + FSH works even better in restoring men's fertility while still on testosterone.
You can look up Larry Lipshultz's work at Baylor or find other studies on men on TRT using HCG, HMG, FSH, and other agents to increase fertility without ever coming off of test.
For me, personally, I've been using test and other steroids for over 27 years, and I went from zero sperm count to 35 million by using HCG and HMG, and fathered a child with my wife. And there are plenty of other men who have increased their sperm count and fathered children without ever coming off of test.
It doesn't necessarily work for everybody, as some men had pre-existing fertility problems before ever starting to use steroids. But it does work for many men, including me.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6087849/
"hCG therapy can help preserve spermatogenesis in men undergoing TRT by maintaining intratesticular testosterone levels. It was has been shown that follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) alone cannot initiate or maintain spermatogenesis in hypogonadal (11) men leading to the discovery of the importance of intratesticular testosterone in spermatogenesis. In healthy eugonadal men selected to undergo TRT it was shown that their intratesticular testosterone levels dropped by 94%. However, in those who received 250 IU SC every other day along with TRT their intratesticular testosterone levels only dropped 7%. Additionally, in men who received TRT and 500 IU of hCG every other day an increase in intratesticular testosterone by 26% was observed (12). This proved that co-administering low dose hCG could maintain intratesticular testosterone in those undergoing TRT. It was later shown that not only is intratesticular testosterone increased with co-administration hCG but spermatogenesis is preserved as well at one year follow up (13). These studies proved that by concomitant hCG administration with TRT spermatogenesis and thus potentially fertility could be preserved...If Semen parameters fail to improve and FSH remains low, Gonal-f (recombinant FSH) 75 IU every other day can be added. In men who desire pregnancy within 6–12 months TRT can be continued with co-administration of 500 IU of HCG every other day ± clomiphene citrate can be used...As the age of men with hypogonadism continues to decrease and the age of paternity continues to increase more men will need to treatment for hypogonadism while maintaining fertility. hCG is a safe and efficacious alternative or adjunct to TRT in men desiring to preserve fertility while treating their hypogonadism. hCG can also be used help restore spermatogenesis in men hypogonadal hypogonadism or steroid induced impairment of spermatogenesis."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4378070/
"The benefits of hCG therapy are not limited to maintaining healthy levels of intratesticular testosterone levels alone. These benefits also include maintenance of spermatogenesis in males receiving testosterone supplementation. We have previously demonstrated the ability of hCG therapy to maintain spermatogenesis in men receiving TST. When 26 hypogonadal men receiving TST via transdermal patches or intramuscular injections and concomitant low-dose hCG were studied retrospectively, factors such as serum and free testosterone, estradiol, serum parameters, and pregnancy rates were evaluated. Results showed no differences in semen parameters during 1 year of follow-up, and none of the men became azoospermic during the treatment.14 These studies indicate that low-dose hCG may be beneficial for men requiring testosterone supplementation therapy during their reproductive years and that intramuscular or transdermal TST does not necessarily significantly impact spermatogenesis. Further studies are needed to determine whether this benefit is sustained both qualitatively and quantitatively."
https://www.drmichaelschoenwalder.c...Replacement Therapy (Injections and gels).pdf