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You can learn a great deal from Acromegaly. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10688666/
Thyroid cancer (still some debate on that) seems to be highly elevated as is colon/rectal cancer but there seems to be a modest increase in cancer rate compared to the general public. I dont worry about diabetes or cancer very much with gh and bodybuilders. I do have great concern (and i do mean high high concern) of what high androgens and high growth hormone over time does to the heart. High androgens no doubt in any way increase LVH and Cardiomegaly in bodybuilders. Yet you can reverse that somewhat if you cease using androgens and wash out (but honestly who does that?)....but when you mix in high dose GH usage, it multiplies that heart enlargement effect many times over rapidly as shown in the various studies. That is not going to show up in bloodwork, and by the time it shows up for some it will be late in the game.....and your bodybuilding career as you knew/know it will be ceased with you just trying to figure out just how to "live". What do people with acromegaly die of? Very rarely cancer...very rarely. They virtually all die of heart failure at a young age. These guys blasting androgens and gh like it is going out of style because their bloodwork looks "ok" might get a quick wake up call when they find themselves with lethargy, shortness of breath, and swelling of their lower legs.....and the doctor informs them of a 10-35 ejection fraction. There was a superheavyweight bber that was going to sweep the nats/usa's years ago (he would have trounced everyone, if you heard his name you would agree), that found himself on a waiting list for a heart transplant while prepping for the Nats. Had no idea whatsoever until it was too late and his "usage" and "wont happen to me" thought process put him there. He has made it back, not bodybuilding back but "having a life to live back"...but he dropped off the face of the earth bodybuilding wise, virtually dropped everything and anything to do with bodybuilding, and did everything in his power to just "live" .....
Thyroid cancer (still some debate on that) seems to be highly elevated as is colon/rectal cancer but there seems to be a modest increase in cancer rate compared to the general public. I dont worry about diabetes or cancer very much with gh and bodybuilders. I do have great concern (and i do mean high high concern) of what high androgens and high growth hormone over time does to the heart. High androgens no doubt in any way increase LVH and Cardiomegaly in bodybuilders. Yet you can reverse that somewhat if you cease using androgens and wash out (but honestly who does that?)....but when you mix in high dose GH usage, it multiplies that heart enlargement effect many times over rapidly as shown in the various studies. That is not going to show up in bloodwork, and by the time it shows up for some it will be late in the game.....and your bodybuilding career as you knew/know it will be ceased with you just trying to figure out just how to "live". What do people with acromegaly die of? Very rarely cancer...very rarely. They virtually all die of heart failure at a young age. These guys blasting androgens and gh like it is going out of style because their bloodwork looks "ok" might get a quick wake up call when they find themselves with lethargy, shortness of breath, and swelling of their lower legs.....and the doctor informs them of a 10-35 ejection fraction. There was a superheavyweight bber that was going to sweep the nats/usa's years ago (he would have trounced everyone, if you heard his name you would agree), that found himself on a waiting list for a heart transplant while prepping for the Nats. Had no idea whatsoever until it was too late and his "usage" and "wont happen to me" thought process put him there. He has made it back, not bodybuilding back but "having a life to live back"...but he dropped off the face of the earth bodybuilding wise, virtually dropped everything and anything to do with bodybuilding, and did everything in his power to just "live" .....