I didn't say it wasn't that great - I'm crazy about the stuff. You're right tho, I should have mentioned slin. With an AS cycle and slin the gh will really do some anabolic stuff. I personally do gluco, and have never done slin. But with slin, the gh can have some significant anabolic effects, especially if done along with AS. It does work on a totally different system from AS. I think this is one reason a lot of major pros use it (We have some on here of course, so it would be interesting to see what they think) - it makes a great bridge also, since it doesn't suppress your HPTA axis. You need to take a few days off from time to time, but it is totally different from cycling AS - you can basically take it indefinitely. Also like you said it can get expensive and the pros I guess can afford to take it at fairly high levels. I have heard of some pros, and also a number of the "major" pro wrestlers taking some serious levels of growth. When your livelihood depends on staying big and cut all the time I guess it is good for that, where you can afford it. For me, I still wouldn't consider it a big-time bulking agent, but it will really give you some quality muscle.