High or Low E2? Thyroid? Experienced Input please

[Rome1]

Long story short, been running DNP for 21 days (250mgday) with Test 750, Tren 300. Just bumped Tren to 450 this week and added mast 300. Been taking adex 1mg M/W/F. Also used ECA during workouts for the past week. Training is everyday and diet is high protein, low carb (125g) and low fat. The past 2 days I've gotten crazy anxiety at night. I always feel more congested with restricted breathing but my head and upper body turns bright red with pressure in my head. I've taken my temp and its 97.9 and also BP that 130/80. Anyone ever experience this? Is it the mast + the AI that knocking my estro too low or is my estro raising at night some how? It got bad last night and ended up taking 1mg of adex with viagra, celery seed extract and Hawthorne and jumped into a ice cold shower but when i take hear rate (88BPM) BP and temp I'm fine? What would cause the panic attacks? The only thing I added was Mast and eca(none yesterday-process of elimination) and upped tren but before that I was fine. Thanks for the input

 

[epoxy]

Long story short, been running DNP for 21 days (250mgday) with Test 750, Tren 300. Just bumped Tren to 450 this week and added mast 300. Been taking adex 1mg M/W/F. Also used ECA during workouts for the past week. Training is everyday and diet is high protein, low carb (125g) and low fat. The past 2 days I've gotten crazy anxiety at night. I always feel more congested with restricted breathing but my head and upper body turns bright red with pressure in my head. I've taken my temp and its 97.9 and also BP that 130/80. Anyone ever experience this? Is it the mast + the AI that knocking my estro too low or is my estro raising at night some how? It got bad last night and ended up taking 1mg of adex with viagra, celery seed extract and Hawthorne and jumped into a ice cold shower but when i take hear rate (88BPM) BP and temp I'm fine? What would cause the panic attacks? The only thing I added was Mast and eca(none yesterday-process of elimination) and upped tren but before that I was fine. Thanks for the input

i have had issues like this from ECA for running it too long...i had to start doing 2 weeks on 2 weeks off or i would get BP issues. not taking any other stims? adderall or anything like that? it's not the DNP, and i dare say not the mast, i've never had issues like this from low e2...doesn't really make sense. tren will also obviously raise BP but you should know that, it could just be wearing on you over time, hard to say.

i added a supp called Carditone into my stack about a year ago from running tren/drol/other drugs that raise BP and it dropped my BP by probably 10 points.

 

[Rome1]

i have had issues like this from ECA for running it too long...i had to start doing 2 weeks on 2 weeks off or i would get BP issues. not taking any other stims? adderall or anything like that? it's not the DNP, and i dare say not the mast, i've never had issues like this from low e2...doesn't really make sense. tren will also obviously raise BP but you should know that, it could just be wearing on you over time, hard to say.

i added a supp called Carditone into my stack about a year ago from running tren/drol/other drugs that raise BP and it dropped my BP by probably 10 points.

Thx bro, I'll try the carditone out. A shit ton of caffeine now that I think about it. Probably around 500 mg a day but before 3. 2 cups coffee am, 1 monster and 100 mg with eca when I would take it. I know about tren maybe I upped it to fast but usually don't have a problem with it and didn't think it was the DNP. Did you sides sneak up on you at night? Mine anxiety/flush feeling starts at 8-9 the past few nights. It's weird.

 

[Rome1]

Also, anyone ever plateaud on DNP after 3 weeks? The scale hasn't moved in about 5 days? I doubt I keep adding water to what I lost in BF to equal the same weight.

 

[epoxy]

Also, anyone ever plateaud on DNP after 3 weeks? The scale hasn't moved in about 5 days? I doubt I keep adding water to what I lost in BF to equal the same weight.

I've had quite a few discussions about this with other people. When I'm at 250 I always seem to hit a wall between 14-21 days...you need to up the dose.

 

[Rome1]

I've had quite a few discussions about this with other people. When I'm at 250 I always seem to hit a wall between 14-21 days...you need to up the dose.

Same here. I think I'm going to come off for a few weeks instead of upping those dose bc of the swelling symptoms I get in my throat area. It seems that it's building up and getting worse everyday. Could only imagine what doubling the dose would be like right now. Lol. Sux tapping out bc I'm at about 8% and wanted to get to 4-5 before I gave up on it

 

[epoxy]

Same here. I think I'm going to come off for a few weeks instead of upping those dose bc of the swelling symptoms I get in my throat area. It seems that it's building up and getting worse everyday. Could only imagine what doubling the dose would be like right now. Lol. Sux tapping out bc I'm at about 8% and wanted to get to 4-5 before I gave up on it

Are you using an anti-histmaine? I had trouble on my first run due to histamine build up...now I run Benadryl once daily for the entire cycle up to about a week after finishing. I never had throat swelling but I got some skin irritation and rash while running DNP.

By the way, 8% is great...4-5%, I've never been there, but it seems like it would take a hell of a whole lot. I usually start to stall right when I get under 10% and have to go to drastic measure to get further down. I think next run I will be on GH and peps as well, you can only tighten your diet so much on DNP before you find yourself feeling like you're starving to death

 

[Rome1]

Are you using an anti-histmaine? I had trouble on my first run due to histamine build up...now I run Benadryl once daily for the entire cycle up to about a week after finishing. I never had throat swelling but I got some skin irritation and rash while running DNP.

I didn't start using it until a few days ago. Now I take 2 Benadryl every night and then this morning I felt off like I have been the past few times at night and took another this morning. Also, downed a ton of water and ate about 75g more carbs than I normally do and I feel better(no anxiety) just dry throat still and the normal DNP feeling