Responsible Usage: Not another BS low dosage vs high dosage thread

[Doitagain]

The comments I get are almost never related to the blood draw……

I know you don't even bother reading the test results. I don't blame you.

 

[SouthernMuscle]

I know you don't even bother reading the test results. I don't blame you.

I don’t get it. Why wouldn’t I

 

[Doitagain]

I don’t get it. Why wouldn’t I

Cuz you go for teh ladies only

 

[SouthernMuscle]

Cuz you go for teh ladies only

I’m sorry sir, just had a nap


But to your point, I do need the bloodwork, but the ladies aren’t hurting the experience

 

[madg]

Other than if I’m using an intra my carbs are fruits, potatoes and fresh juice(if carbs get high enough).

Sry bump this but .. my brother from another mother !

Exact same like me

 

[bbxtreme]

Bumping my own thread. There is a lot of good stuff in this thread that every member should read. Attaching my current lipids. No statins. Just living the lifestyle day to day.

 

[nothuman]

Bumping my own thread. There is a lot of good stuff in this thread that every member should read. Attaching my current lipids. No statins. Just living the lifestyle day to day.

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LDL is 29 without any pharmacology at all??! How is that even possible?

That Lp(a) is great

 

[bbxtreme]

LDL is 29 without any pharmacology at all??! How is that even possible?

That Lp(a) is great

Citrus bergamot 1000mg AM empty stomach and one week on cardarine 10 mg daily which I contribute to the additional drop. I’m also using 400mg injectable carnitine pre fasted cardio, but that’s never impacted it.

I usually am around 40 for LDL with just diet and exercise. Mainly my food choices.

 

[nothuman]

Citrus bergamot 1000mg AM empty stomach and one week on cardarine 10 mg daily which I contribute to the additional drop. I’m also using 400mg injectable carnitine pre fasted cardio, but that’s never impacted it.

I usually am around 40 for LDL with just diet and exercise. Mainly my food choices.

How’s your diet? High in fiber?

 

[bbxtreme]

How’s your diet? High in fiber?

Higher now. Oats over COR, deep greens with each meal, fats are coming from olive oil (dark bottle) primarily and 15g from walnuts in my last meal. I’ve eliminated whole eggs and saturated fats from meat sources. Instead of beef I’ll use salmon for one meal. Cod, egg whites and 99% fat free chicken are my proteins.

I honestly didn’t think I could keep getting it lower, but I was dead wrong and now see just how much the food choices really do play.

Now if I can find the magical trick to get HDL up while on gear.

 

[Swifto]

Higher now. Oats over COR, deep greens with each meal, fats are coming from olive oil (dark bottle) primarily and 15g from walnuts in my last meal. I’ve eliminated whole eggs and saturated fats from meat sources. Instead of beef I’ll use salmon for one meal. Cod, egg whites and 99% fat free chicken are my proteins.

I honestly didn’t think I could keep getting it lower, but I was dead wrong and now see just how much the food choices really do play.

Now if I can find the magical trick to get HDL up while on gear.

HDL is the kicker isn't it.

Mine was recently 28 on 350mg Test and 350mg EQ.

Low fat seems to the the way forward for obtaining good lipids. I'm similar with protein sources being, prawns, chicken, venison, whey. Very very low sat fat.

 

[bbxtreme]

HDL is the kicker isn't it.

Mine was recently 28 on 350mg Test and 350mg EQ.

Low fat seems to the the way forward for obtaining good lipids. I'm similar with protein sources being, prawns, chicken, venison, whey. Very very low sat fat.

I haven’t been running an AI either as my E2 < 15 without one. I thought that along with the 6-8g of fish oil per day would bump it more, but no such luck.

I know it’s debatable science, but if I can at least keep my LDL:HDL under 2:1 then I have more confidence in my health. Along with Lipo A, homocysteine and inflammatory markers being in the green of course.

 

[nothuman]

HDL is the kicker isn't it.

Mine was recently 28 on 350mg Test and 350mg EQ.

Low fat seems to the the way forward for obtaining good lipids. I'm similar with protein sources being, prawns, chicken, venison, whey. Very very low sat fat.

I haven’t been running an AI either as my E2 < 15 without one. I thought that along with the 6-8g of fish oil per day would bump it more, but no such luck.

I know it’s debatable science, but if I can at least keep my LDL:HDL under 2:1 then I have more confidence in my health. Along with Lipo A, homocysteine and inflammatory markers being in the green of course.

I don’t think I’d worry too much about that HDL when the LDL is only 29. I posted Grok 3’s AI response to the HDL question in another thread. Just doesn’t seem too concerning if LDL is low enough.

 

[nothuman]

I don’t think I’d worry too much about that HDL when the LDL is only 29. I posted Grok 3’s AI response to the HDL question in another thread. Just doesn’t seem too concerning if LDL is low enough.

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[Stewie]

Bumping my own thread. There is a lot of good stuff in this thread that every member should read. Attaching my current lipids. No statins. Just living the lifestyle day to day.

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Have you had any apolipoprotein genotype testing done? More specific, APOE2 variant... there's a relationship of lowish LDL with APOE2 variant(s).

 

[bbxtreme]

Have you had any apolipoprotein genotype testing done? More specific, APOE2 variant... there's a relationship of lowish LDL with APOE2 variant(s).

I had not checked until you asked, but it doesn’t seem I have any active risk with that gene.

 

[Stewie]

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I can't make it too well. From my interpretation it does appear your genotype is APOE2/2. I'm not familiar with that specific gene assay.

 

[bbxtreme]

I can't make it too well. From my interpretation it does appear your genotype is APOE2/2. I'm not familiar with that specific gene assay.

I’m still trying to get educated on it all as well. Just out of curiosity, if one did have that variant outside of low LDL what would the risk be in terms of health?

 

[Stewie]

I’m still trying to get educated on it all as well. Just out of curiosity, if one did have that variant outside of low LDL what would the risk be in terms of health?

Without speaking in absolutes, there's quite a bit to unravel. Too much to list out tonight, a bit close to bedtime. There's a few common traits that are associated with this apolipoprotein variant. It appears you have both e2 copies, one from each parent. Unusually rare. The more common, you're (APOE2 carriers) at a lower risk of neurocognitive disorders, AD- dementia related. On the flip-side, aggressive metastasis of melanoma.

I personally wouldn't try to nutraceutically (supplemental) beat LDL to oblivion. As it is, APOE2 doesn't bind too well with LDL receptors, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. Both APOE2 and LDL work in tandem upon LDL receptor binding. I'll try to fill in the gaps later.

 

[KingOfSushi]

LDL is 29 without any pharmacology at all??! How is that even possible?

That Lp(a) is great

Curious, what’s your fat intake? I’ve found that eating practically only trace fats with omega 3 supplementation keeps my ldl similar