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how bad are orals really

fitnessmuscle

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hello guys ,I was wondering how bad are oral steroids on the liver really, I have never used orals before cause of liver toxicity, guys in your opinion ,what would be harder on liver, lets say 20mg ed m1t ,or if you drink 6 shots a day of absolute vodka 80 proof ,im just trying to get a idea so I used that example ,thank you guys
 

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The toxicity of orals are overrated. There are things you can do to minimize the effect of oral steroids such as consuming at least a gallon of water per day and avoiding alcohol and drugs. The main focus should be on the kidneys and lipids.
 

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The toxicity of orals are overrated. There are things you can do to minimize the effect of oral steroids such as consuming at least a gallon of water per day and avoiding alcohol and drugs. The main focus should be on the kidneys and lipids.

ya I know the liver can rejuvenate itself, but I don't wanna blow it out lol ,thank you
 

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Hi mate

I don't touch orals as I was in hospital with steroid induced Jaundice
Many years ago with them NAP50's

My liver bile levels were through the roof and was told by the doc that there Not sure how the liver didn't shut down :banghead:
was a two month recovery, one of the worst times of my life

some people can handle orals better than others

I was only having 1 tab a day but for 5 weeks
That was my mistake I think.

For that reason, I don't touch any orals
 

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Hi mate

I don't touch orals as I was in hospital with steroid induced Jaundice
Many years ago with them NAP50's

My liver bile levels were through the roof and was told by the doc that there Not sure how the liver didn't shut down :banghead:
was a two month recovery, one of the worst times of my life

some people can handle orals better than others

I was only having 1 tab a day but for 5 weeks
That was my mistake I think.

For that reason, I don't touch any orals

jesus that's terrible man ,5 weeks for some is nothing, were you a drinker or anything like that
 

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I have a hook up with a buddy who is a HRT doctor, and he keeps an eye on my test, estro, and hematric, etc. when I take real Orals my enzymes almost triple the normal rate. Blood pressure stays elevated around 200/110, and my skin stays red. When I'm off of the Orals I'm completely fine. I started taking NAC, TUDCA, and milk thistle, and now I'm able to take Orals with only slight enzyme elevations.. 2x normal, instead of 3. And within a month or so they return to normal. Take care of those internals!
 

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Some idea based on my blood work.

End of 2015, I did 8 weeks of Abombs:

LDH 237 Normal Range 121-224
AST 165 Normal Range 0-40

For 3 weeks didn't drink anything but water...over a gallon a day. Came back perfect at:

LDH 163
AST 30

Just got done with Whinny 7 weeks:
AST 45
LDH 237

Will get another blood test in a couple weeks.

So yes, it does wreck stuff but once you are done, if you don't drink, the liver comes back strong. I'm an old dude +45.

With that said, my oral days are about over.
 

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Some idea based on my blood work.

End of 2015, I did 8 weeks of Abombs:

LDH 237 Normal Range 121-224
AST 165 Normal Range 0-40

For 3 weeks didn't drink anything but water...over a gallon a day. Came back perfect at:

LDH 163
AST 30

Just got done with Whinny 7 weeks:
AST 45
LDH 237

Will get another blood test in a couple weeks.

So yes, it does wreck stuff but once you are done, if you don't drink, the liver comes back strong. I'm an old dude +45.

With that said, my oral days are about over.

what dose of a-bombs? anything else?
 

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I,m not to sure dude
I was also on some test booster
And maybe diet...hardly any water intake....it was about 7 years ago now

I didnt do my homework on the tabs also, as I'm sure you know
NAP50s are about as toxic as you can get for an oral.

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what dose of a-bombs? anything else?

Never went above 50m per day with Abombs. Max was 6 wks

With Whinny never went above 60m per day. Max was 7 wks

While I do compete in local shows, I realize that I'm not headed to the big time. To be honest, I lift more for the ladies. And to get ladies, you have to wine and dine them. Which means drinking. And drinking and orals don't mix.
 

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Never went above 50m per day with Abombs. Max was 6 wks

With Whinny never went above 60m per day. Max was 7 wks

While I do compete in local shows, I realize that I'm not headed to the big time. To be honest, I lift more for the ladies. And to get ladies, you have to wine and dine them. Which means drinking. And drinking and orals don't mix.

oh ok, so it was drol + drinking...yes not good to do together
 

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I have a hook up with a buddy who is a HRT doctor, and he keeps an eye on my test, estro, and hematric, etc. when I take real Orals my enzymes almost triple the normal rate. Blood pressure stays elevated around 200/110, and my skin stays red. When I'm off of the Orals I'm completely fine. I started taking NAC, TUDCA, and milk thistle, and now I'm able to take Orals with only slight enzyme elevations.. 2x normal, instead of 3. And within a month or so they return to normal. Take care of those internals!
Jesus Christ man... Your blood pressure is ridiculous.

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that's what I was thinking to, no way
Well I wish it was just a bad dream
But it happened

Weeks in hospital and then nearly two months off work

You have to understand that
We are not all the same
And some people can smash them at 100 for 2 months
But not myself...not 100% as to why as I wasn't a drinker but it did happen lol

Not really something anyone would make up [emoji12]



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Orals

Personally if I'm taking an oral I'll take something to supplement my liver as well such as milk thistle just to be safe and try to even things out as much as possible.
 

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Well I wish it was just a bad dream
But it happened

Weeks in hospital and then nearly two months off work

You have to understand that
We are not all the same
And some people can smash them at 100 for 2 months
But not myself...not 100% as to why as I wasn't a drinker but it did happen lol

Not really something anyone would make up [emoji12]



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oh I def believe you, im just saying wow that cant be from just 5 weeks orals ,idc if its superdrol or m1t, that kind of damage is def out of the norm for most
 

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Not Bad At All

Orals not really that bad at all. Just make sure you dont stay on for long. 4-6 weeks max. Just cycle it like 4 weeks ON 4 weeks OFF etc. and make sure you swallow tons of liver support tabs and you will be fine lol. Orals build that extra mass in addition to from your test or deca and you would love that, dont you? Well, I do.
 

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