I want to own!

[king1033]

just a update on progess..... looking for opinions.
leg shots tomorrow....but now bed time
by the way im only 20 hope to be a pro one day

 

[king1033]

forgot to mention im 6 foot if anyone wanted to know my height

 

[king1033]

bump anyone lol sorry but im impatient to see where my physique stands. im my own worst critique so i need others reviews.

 

[Phidias]

20! You definitely have what it takes to go places!

Once you fill out that tall frame of yours while managing to keep your current level of conditionning, you'll be a true freak.

Just try to be patient...

 

[SABAGOY]

Just try to be patient...

If he is bumping the thread to get responses an 2 hours after posting it in the middle of the night I dont think he is a very patient person

But you look great! Keep up the hard work and stay focused...If you are serious about trying to go places in this sport i suggest hiring someone now to work with...they will definitely get you there fastest and the right way.

 

[king1033]

If he is bumping the thread to get responses an 2 hours after posting it in the middle of the night I dont think he is a very patient person

But you look great! Keep up the hard work and stay focused...If you are serious about trying to go places in this sport i suggest hiring someone now to work with...they will definitely get you there fastest and the right way.

I plan to work with myself, I think you would be very surprised the stuff I know already. Plus im working with a few friends off this board... the only person that can do the work and get me there is ME no one else. I plan to hopefully stand on stage with the pro's down the road. one step at a time like you both have mentioned patients, slow and steady wins the race.

 

[abolish the weak]

I plan to work with myself, I think you would be very surprised the stuff I know already. Plus im working with a few friends off this board... the only person that can do the work and get me there is ME no one else. I plan to hopefully stand on stage with the pro's down the road. one step at a time like you both have mentioned patients, slow and steady wins the race.

if thats the case then start competing now!! Within ur first 3-4 shows if your not doing something like Nationals, forget it. Not this day and time, the ones who come up come up quick and if you dont then you just dont have the proper genetics. good luck bro

 

[eroc613]

Many people went years competeing, and were not very succesfull. Then they found what worked for them. And everything turned around, and became Pro.
You'll know if you are honest with yourself, and surround yourself with truely honest people.

 

[RONJON]

lookin good man!

 

[MAINEVENT]

if thats the case then start competing now!! Within ur first 3-4 shows if your not doing something like Nationals, forget it. Not this day and time, the ones who come up come up quick and if you dont then you just dont have the proper genetics. good luck bro

Damn it, this makes the 2nd post of yours i agree with.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Hey

Just have fun with this sport....if you get too into yourself it will ruin your life. Being a pro is about putting all else aside and being all about yourself for a very long time..........you do not have POPPING muscles, so a pro card is out of your reach............just have fun.

 

[pesty4077]

Great advice Phil. Yes, do some local shows and keep it real and have fun! You have a good built and should do well at the local level, as long as your conditioning is good.

 

[king1033]

Just have fun with this sport....if you get too into yourself it will ruin your life. Being a pro is about putting all else aside and being all about yourself for a very long time..........you do not have POPPING muscles, so a pro card is out of your reach............just have fun.

yes maybe for NOW im not all about myself either im actually the opposite, I just look at the gym as a passion and the gains are just a product of my struggle so yea i just go with the flo but give it my all. You really think i cant turn into something in the next few years that can qualify for pro, cause i certainly know i cant hit pro at the age of 20 especially with this physique i gotta work for it.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Well

yes maybe for NOW im not all about myself either im actually the opposite, I just look at the gym as a passion and the gains are just a product of my struggle so yea i just go with the flo but give it my all. You really think i cant turn into something in the next few years that can qualify for pro, cause i certainly know i cant hit pro at the age of 20 especially with this physique i gotta work for it.

No I dont......I am sorry........you do not have the shape they are looking for AT THIS TIME.......I saw your legs........too small RIGHT NOW.....Question...are you natural? Hard work is a dime a dozen, we all work hard so dont use that as part of your equation or else your numbers will be way off.

 

[king1033]

No I dont......I am sorry........you do not have the shape they are looking for AT THIS TIME.......I saw your legs........too small RIGHT NOW.....Question...are you natural? Hard work is a dime a dozen, we all work hard so dont use that as part of your equation or else your numbers will be way off.

I dont know i beg to differ!, just cause my legs are small as of now doesnt mean they are at my genetic potential that goes for everything else too, remember im 20 years old here I think the next few years will be telling as to whether I make it or not. But all I can do is try to go for it. cause i had to lay off my legs for awhile due to injury, But im 100% and they WILL get back to where they were and THEN SOME! (they grow like weeds under the right conditions). Before my injury I was 240 I def was "popping then" right now im around 215 I'll get back up there in due time. seriously tho I dont see what can stop me. I dont believe in the whole genetic limitations talk, because frankly I have never had trouble breaking through plataues, think about it wheeler only hit 240's-250's and he went pro but i realize that was back in the day and now they look for monstrosities, But I am confident (very confident) I can offer something symmetric and monstrous to the table that could stand me up there with the rest of them... I believe in slow and steady wins the race. So you can disagree all you want just makes my determination and motivation stronger. so please talk my dreams down by all means be my guest.... cause in my eyes they arn't dreams they are goals that WILL be achieved. give me a month Im confident i can put on another 8lbs LBM in that time frame and Ill post up another pic and Ill do so each and every month afterwards til you take back what you said..... (by the way i dont mean for any parts of my message to be offensive, so i apologize in advance if i chose the wrong words.)

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Well

I dont know i beg to differ!, just cause my legs are small as of now doesnt mean they are at my genetic potential that goes for everything else too, remember im 20 years old here I think the next few years will be telling as to whether I make it or not. But all I can do is try to go for it. cause i had to lay off my legs for awhile due to injury, But im 100% and they WILL get back to where they were and THEN SOME! (they grow like weeds under the right conditions). Before my injury I was 240 I def was "popping then" right now im around 215 I'll get back up there in due time. seriously tho I dont see what can stop me. I dont believe in the whole genetic limitations talk, because frankly I have never had trouble breaking through plataues, think about it wheeler only hit 240's-250's and he went pro but i realize that was back in the day and now they look for monstrosities, But I am confident (very confident) I can offer something symmetric and monstrous to the table that could stand me up there with the rest of them... I believe in slow and steady wins the race. So you can disagree all you want just makes my determination and motivation stronger. so please talk my dreams down by all means be my guest.... cause in my eyes they arn't dreams they are goals that WILL be achieved. give me a month Im confident i can put on another 8lbs LBM in that time frame and Ill post up another pic and Ill do so each and every month afterwards til you take back what you said..... (by the way i dont mean for any parts of my message to be offensive, so i apologize in advance if i chose the wrong words.)

I think you need to ask yourself why you feel the need to gain all of this muscle. Once you figure it out then you can answer these questions for yourself.....then you can enjoy life. At your age/experience I understand that what I am telling you sounds like another language.......but with more knowledge and life experience it will become clear to you.........here is an example that maybe you can relate to. "I want to work hard and play in the NBA next year............I know I can do it!! I do not believe in genetic limitations and I know I can make any team I want to". Wouldnt you think I was off my rocker a tad?

 

[king1033]

I think you need to ask yourself why you feel the need to gain all of this muscle. Once you figure it out then you can answer these questions for yourself.....then you can enjoy life. At your age/experience I understand that what I am telling you sounds like another language.......but with more knowledge and life experience it will become clear to you.........here is an example that maybe you can relate to. "I want to work hard and play in the NBA next year............I know I can do it!! I do not believe in genetic limitations and I know I can make any team I want to". Wouldnt you think I was off my rocker a tad?

again i disagree with you, trust me I may be young but in no ways am i indirectly blinding myself from the truth, I already know the answers to my questions... The answer is because I want it! I want to own! because I know I will never come across anything I love as much as bodybuilding in the hobby department, My girl thats another story and the two are in seperate categories she holds the number one spot, family first ALWAYS. Lol the NBA analogy is a little bit much dont you think because i cant help im 6 foot and not 6 7, plus i couldnt shoot a basket to save my life, but i sure can lift some weights til im blue in the face, til my skin wants to tear and my vision is blurred by the sweat drowning my eyes. you'll see i think we both stated what needed to be said.. but i see the only way to proove to you im not just ANY little "kid" is to show you through appearance... Ill bring the monster out...trust me.... it will come due time.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

No

again i disagree with you, trust me I may be young but in no ways am i indirectly blinding myself from the truth, I already know the answers to my questions... The answer is because I want it! I want to own! because I know I will never come across anything I love as much as bodybuilding in the hobby department, My girl thats another story and the two are in seperate categories she holds the number one spot, family first ALWAYS. Lol the NBA analogy is a little bit much dont you think because i cant help im 6 foot and not 6 7, plus i couldnt shoot a basket to save my life, but i sure can lift some weights til im blue in the face, til my skin wants to tear and my vision is blurred by the sweat drowning my eyes. you'll see i think we both stated what needed to be said.. but i see the only way to proove to you im not just ANY little "kid" is to show you through appearance... Ill bring the monster out...trust me.... it will come due time.

I meant if I wanted to be in the NBA.........nevermind man, do your thing

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Another thing

Can you be mentally tough enough to handle criticism and not take it as an attack on you? IF someone tells you that you have no legs and thats why you lost will you be able to take that?

 

[Ness]

Im always amazed when people argue with a highly seasoned professional bodybuilder like Phil about this subject. Not only is Phil a pro, but he has been in this game for 3 decades. He breaths this stuff.

Phil has probably seen and evaluated thousands of physiques. Do you honestly think he cant see "pro" potential in someone? People around here need to really get back to planet earth.

Here is one of Phil's clients who in my humble opinion just might have what it takes to go somewhere in this sport:

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35909

Now, ask yourself honestly, do you think you can hold your own next to this kid? Do you think your "hard work" can beat his genetics?

I dont mean any disrespect to you and Im certainly not here to piss down on you. I for one will never be a pro no matter how much food, drugs, and hard work I take; but I do what I do for other reasons and I am enjoying the enrichment of bodybuilding in my life.

Good luck and keep up the hard work, but please, dont put yourself in harm's way chasing a dream.