is clomid absolutely necessary?

[jake76]

i am currently running a 16 wk. cycle
wks. 1-10 test-e
wks. 10-16 test-e/prop blend

i was originally planning on running clomid and aromasin...but the more i hear about clomid and its depression/anxiety sides, i just cant do it...i know its a bit of a lengthy cycle and clomid is reccomended but my mental health is at stake...any opinions?

 

[Dad]

First opinion is that yuor cycle is way too long.

Having said that, yuo can probably do without the clomid. You'll need to keep nolvadex and an anti-aromatase going for 6 or more weeks after yuor last shot. The test enanthate will take from 40+ to 60 or so days to clear, and wil be aromatizing to estrogen the entire time as well as acting to suppress the HPT axis.

Nolva and anti-e's won't be a substitue for clomid, but will keep the extra estrogen at bay untill yuor body normalizes - which it will do much more easily and faster on a cycle shorter than 16 weeks.

 

[jake76]

First opinion is that yuor cycle is way too long.

Having said that, yuo can probably do without the clomid. You'll need to keep nolvadex and an anti-aromatase going for 6 or more weeks after yuor last shot. The test enanthate will take from 40+ to 60 or so days to clear, and wil be aromatizing to estrogen the entire time as well as acting to suppress the HPT axis.

Nolva and anti-e's won't be a substitue for clomid, but will keep the extra estrogen at bay untill yuor body normalizes - which it will do much more easily and faster on a cycle shorter than 16 weeks.

i thought i was supposed to wait 2 wks. after my last shot?...then go nolva 40 mgs ED wks. 1-3
aromasin 25mgs ed wks. 1-6
is this wrong?

 

[Dad]

Opions vary on all this, of course, but I've seen the best results with shorter cycles, nolva and anti-aromatases started no later than the beginning of the third week or so, and contiuned for at least 6 weeks after yuor last shot of test.

Having watched this for some time, I've seen that people who do this appraoch make decent gains AND give alot less of it back once their cycle ends.

Yuo want to try and suppress yuor body as little as possible and keep the extra estrogen down until things normalize.