Is LH/FSH supposed to be low while on HCG??

Fullybuilt · Sep 11, 2005

Got my blood test results back from being on HRT(150mg cyp per week) I've also been running HCG at 500iu 2x per week.

Total test was 1,186 and the range is 220-850
LH was very low. It was like 0.3 and range 1.5-9.3
FSH was low too. It was around <1 and range 1.4-18

I know those are supposed to be low when your on test, but wouldnt the HCG make them higher or is that normal? thanks

hompie · Sep 11, 2005

HCG lets the body think you are producing your own test. Thats why nobody uses it anymore after cycle like in the old days. It would surpress you even longer. This is the reason your LH/FSH is low. Im on HRT too and mine is always low almost zero. Aslong as you are doing HRT why bother?
Sorry if my english is not so well.......

Conan21 · Sep 12, 2005

is your total test really at 1186 from 150 mgs?

or is some in your system from a previous cycle.

as for the others LH, and FSH coming up. yea, i would think they should go up. but you have to remember those numbers are low for you to begin with. thats why you went on HRT to begin with.

I'd just stick with the HRT dose your doctor has you on and if you MUST only bump it up SLIGHTLY here and there. or get sperm frozen.

your low now but prolly still ok. You probably won't be in 10 years (or less) from now if you continue to run bodybuilding cycles and haven't had a child yet.

Big A · Sep 12, 2005

Fullybuilt said:
Got my blood test results back from being on HRT(150mg cyp per week) I've also been running HCG at 500iu 2x per week.

Total test was 1,186 and the range is 220-850
LH was very low. It was like 0.3 and range 1.5-9.3
FSH was low too. It was around <1 and range 1.4-18

I know those are supposed to be low when your on test, but wouldnt the HCG make them higher or is that normal? thanks

Hell yes HCG will suppress your FSH and LH. And it will take you so much longer to recover too than if you just stopped the test without any HCG. If the doc prescribed you the HCG, tell him to learn more.

Big A · Sep 12, 2005

Conan21 said:
is your total test really at 1186 from 150 mgs?

It's like that from the HCG.

Qwert · Sep 12, 2005

Would it be worth it to use HCG 2 weeks before stopping a cycle & starting PCT?

hompie · Sep 12, 2005

Big A said:
Hell yes HCG will suppress your FSH and LH. And it will take you so much longer to recover too than if you just stopped the test without any HCG. If the doc prescribed you the HCG, tell him to learn more.

Like I said.........

hompie · Sep 12, 2005

Qwert said:
Would it be worth it to use HCG 2 weeks before stopping a cycle & starting PCT?

Nee

MikeS · Sep 12, 2005

Isnt blood test measured in Nanograms? That may be what the 1186 is.

Qwert · Sep 12, 2005

hompie said:
Nee

Ok then, what good is HCG in a cycle? Let's say someone is about to end a long multi month cycle in a month & this person has their PCT therapy of nolvadex set up, when when HCG be useful?

Starkraven · Sep 12, 2005

yeah. when does one use HCG? that was the old days? i hear people use it every cycle until they stop the test, then PCT begins. personally, ive been on a while and my sperm is reduced. not by tests by the look of how much i climax. my libido is also not as high as it was when i DIDN'T use gear so wouldn't I need HCG? or just run nolvadex and clomid for PCT 2 weeks after the testo shot?

Starkraven · Sep 13, 2005

Big A · Sep 13, 2005

Starkraven said:
yeah. when does one use HCG? that was the old days? i hear people use it every cycle until they stop the test, then PCT begins. personally, ive been on a while and my sperm is reduced. not by tests by the look of how much i climax. my libido is also not as high as it was when i DIDN'T use gear so wouldn't I need HCG? or just run nolvadex and clomid for PCT 2 weeks after the testo shot?

You use HCG every 4 weeks DURING your cycle so the balls remember how to function properly so they come back quicker during PCT.

hompie · Sep 13, 2005

Big A said:
You use HCG every 4 weeks DURING your cycle so the balls remember how to function properly so they come back quicker during PCT.

Indeed

bigdho · Sep 14, 2005

I was always under the impression you ran hcg around 500iu 2xs ew?? Is this just a personal preferance or does it depend on how long your on and what your taking or am I damaging something by doing this?

Starkraven · Sep 14, 2005

well i did not run HCG at all during my cycle so what would be the best suggestion for PCT as of right now? im on 250mg test per week going on my 13th week, i was on 500mg/week with dbol, i lowered it now and want to come off. please let me know. clomid and nolvadex without HCG? some hcg?

thanks.

Starkraven · Sep 16, 2005

bump. i need an answer please.

bigdho · Sep 16, 2005

Im by no means the expert here but Id say if your already into PCT dont worry about HCG now. From what I understand HCG can shut you down just as bad as AAS so just run clomid and nolva and run HCG with your next cycle.

Starkraven · Sep 17, 2005

im not into PCT yet because im still on deciding if i should be taking HCG or not right now while running the test a little longer so i dont use the HCG in my PCT time since it should be used "during" the cycle.

rescued · Sep 18, 2005

I am on HRT as well....when I started my total test was 40, thats right, 40. And I'm only 34 years old. LH was nada. My doc never mentioned anything about HCG....its pointless really when the test is what you need. WHy go around your elbow to get to your thumb? WHy trick your body into thinking it is making test, when you could just replace the test? And, IMO, your doc should be more focused on your free test, rather than your total test, especially if you are looking to make any strides in improving your muscularity.
Just my $.02.