Just had some bloodwork and testostorone came poor

[The Wolf]

Ive been off the gear for over 4 months now, and I had loads of bloodwork done today, supprisingly my thyroid was normal, liver enzymes low but my testorone was low as well, it was measured 1.3, the normal should be between 3 and 10. The guy said it could be stress, Im 31 years old. Anything that I could take to speed up recovery or just excpet it and get on with it?

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Not really

Ive been off the gear for over 4 months now, and I had loads of bloodwork done today, supprisingly my thyroid was normal, liver enzymes low but my testorone was low as well, it was measured 1.3, the normal should be between 3 and 10. The guy said it could be stress, Im 31 years old. Anything that I could take to speed up recovery or just excpet it and get on with it?

Excpet it.

 

[The Wolf]

Excpet it.

Oh well.

 

[LATS]

dave palumbo believes that anyone can recover their test levels in time.. he states his case with the fact that women recover their hormone balance after years of birth control.. i am not so sure.. i believe that maybe.. just maybe, even when we try to recover, we may have done some damage and will expect to be lower in the test range the rest of our lives.. opinions..

 

[homonunculus]

LATS,

The thing that an individual doesn't know exactly, is what the normal decline for would have been sans super supp's (normal decline is 1-2% after the age of 30). You can guesstimate this from your father (although there are generational differences), a brother, or maybe even a twin who did not supplement.

The female ovarian cycle is a very different animal than male testosterone output. He female cycle a hard wired endocrine cycle that is very tightly controlled. FWIW, for most women (in my experience) at least 6 mo. is required to regain some semblance of a regular cycle, even after just a couple mo. of birth control - and those months of recovery aren't typically joyous...

-R

 

[phatkid77]

expect it maybe...accept it?? i wouldn't....keep an eye on it...

i just started HRT at 30yrs old, mine have been low since i was 27....after my "showstopper" cycle....im guessing.... 4 yrs i should of recovered....


phats

 

[GoneForever]

First off don't be suprised about thyroid. I've nvr heard of thyroid effected from gear alone. Also, many may not agree with this, but I belive once you've cycle enough times(some maybe just 1 some 10,etc...) your natty test will never be what it was. Just use 150mg test cyp 1x per week and your golden.

 

[The Wolf]

Well its good to know that my thyoird was normal as I was one of the "idiots that used it for months". I used it for nearly 5 months, I wont again though because I can lose fat without it.

And as for the testostorone, well I guess most of us will be taking test until we kick the bucket. When Im on it I will outfuck any 21 year old (excuse the french).

 

[GoneForever]

Also if you keep your doses in the normal range, you'll live longer. Low test has been proven to cause early deaths in males.

 

[The Wolf]

So do most of you guys use test all year round? What would be the dosage of say test enathate 250mg to take to maintain normal test levels?
And you say guys with normal test levels live longer than guys with low test levels, how about guys with high test levels?

 

[diesel158]

Excpet it.

You're a trip Phil

 

[GoneForever]

So do most of you guys use test all year round? What would be the dosage of say test enathate 250mg to take to maintain normal test levels?
And you say guys with normal test levels live longer than guys with low test levels, how about guys with high test levels?

High isnt a problem if your bloodwork is routinely checked and everything comes back normal. Especially hemocrit,rbc,hdl, ldl. With test enanthate you want around 150mg per week. Stay on that for about 6weeks and get a total tesostoterone test. You should be in the very high end of the normal range or slightly out of the range.

 

[The Wolf]

Test enanthate is active for over 10 days and the injection comes in 250mg so would it be ok to shoot 250 every 10 days?

 

[Gunsmith]

Wolf , did you use T3 or somthing , why would you think that your thyroid would be low??

I have heard so many differant oppinions on useage and dosage of T3 I'm wondering if any of it is true

 

[VNV]

Could be an easy fix. Take a SMALL dose of hCG (e.g. 300 mcg) INFREQUENTLY (e.g. a couple times a week). Any dose much higher or administrations more frequently and you may start suppressing the HPTA. This is what some doctors will recommend to you. Or don't take my word on it, schedule an appointment with a endocrinologist, and ask him about giving it a try.

 

[oldfella]

Wolf, what were your test levels before you started aas?? Did you have them checked? You may be on the low end naturally and did not realize this. But if you didn't know to begin with then now it is too late. Look at HRT now.

 

[The Wolf]

Wolf , did you use T3 or somthing , why would you think that your thyroid would be low??

I have heard so many differant oppinions on useage and dosage of T3 I'm wondering if any of it is true

Yeah I used T3 for months and months, it go's to show that people exagerate about the side affects on T3.

 

[TONE]

Excpet it.

BWAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!

The sad thing is that went over just about everyone's head.

 

[The Wolf]

Wolf, what were your test levels before you started aas?? Did you have them checked? You may be on the low end naturally and did not realize this. But if you didn't know to begin with then now it is too late. Look at HRT now.

Maybe I will try and get my little brother who is 1 year younger than me to go for a blood test as well and if his is low it might be the genetics. Oh well look on the bright side, probably most guys who are over 30 should be on hrt but because they never check, they never bother .

 

[Massive G]

Yeah I used T3 for months and months, it go's to show that people exagerate about the side affects on T3.

Yes they do.

The thyroid axis recovers very quickly.

However if one is using T4 they should expect some suppression a few weeks + after discontinuing use as it has a longer half life.

Everything hard core bb'ers take pound the thyroid function a bit (AAS GH Clen Drene etc.) but it seems to rebound pretty quickly with out dysfunction when off everything.

As mentioned in the other thread on HRT 200 mgs or more a week isn't HRT per se.
If you are overseas look into NEBIDO, I think it is Testosterone Undeconate and you take one shot every 3 months or so.
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