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Kynoselen Length of Use
To those who have used / are using Kynoselen, how long do you recommend staying on it? How long off? Or is it something that doesn't need to be cycled (i.e. year round use).
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Both kynoselen and syntheselen can be used year round as they are natural compounds.
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DESTRO
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What's the longest anyone here has stayed on kyno or synth?
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what would you say pros?....
use kynoselen or is it a waste of money and save money for aas cycles?
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It certainly is worth it as it's results are like a mild steroid. But since it's natural, you won't get any adverse reactions as far as the HTPA goes, so you can take it year round and off cycles, which is very beneficial. Plus, since it's natural, you can't really overdose either. But that only applies to the syntheselen. You take too much kynoselen you are asking for trouble with your heart.
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I've only been using it for 6 days but I think it's great. I'm seeing a decent amt. of fat loss and enhanced vascularity. As for a mild anabolic / anticatabolic, it's hard to tell at this point. I'm using Kynoselen though, not synth.
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w8ts
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Are you sticking it sub-Q or IM?
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DESTRO
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sub-q
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02-09-2002 12:38 AM
Phil Hernon
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SYNTHESELEN
THIS PRODUCT IMPROVED MY VASCULARITY IN 1 WEEK!!!! IS THAT NORMAL BIG A?? I WOULD DEFINATELY USE THIS IN YOUR CYCLE!! YOU NEED SYNTHERGINE ALSO, A CLEAN LIVER MEANS BIGGER MUSCLES!!!!
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Re: SYNTHESELEN
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Originally posted by Phil Hernon
THIS PRODUCT IMPROVED MY VASCULARITY IN 1 WEEK!!!! IS THAT NORMAL BIG A?? I WOULD DEFINATELY USE THIS IN YOUR CYCLE!! YOU NEED SYNTHERGINE ALSO, A CLEAN LIVER MEANS BIGGER MUSCLES!!!!
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It makes you leaner, plus ATP is a slight vasodilator, so yes, vascularity increases very quickly.
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02-09-2002 07:20 AM
JFIta
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What are the difference between Kino and Syntheselen?
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02-10-2002 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by JFIta
What are the difference between Kino and Syntheselen?
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Kynoselen contains AMP, to which many people are sensitive. As such, they can get heart palpitations due to it's extreme vasodilating properties. As well, you can't overdose on AMP, as it's very dangerous - ask Italmuscle - he passed out for 15 min from too much AMP! Also, the mineral balances in kynoselen cause many users cramps.
Syntheselen contains ATP, which from a bodybuilding point of view it's just as effective as AMP, but it does not cause the heart probs that kyno does. So you can use as much syntheselen daily as you wish. Also, the mineral variations in syntheselen have been varied as well so it doesn't cause cramps.
So, basically Syntheselen is more user friendly, safer and at least as effective as kynoselen. Plus syntheselen is made for humans, kynoselen for animals, so you are guaranteed a more safe, sterile product.
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JFIta
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Thx for reply.
I've red on the site to use 1mlx25kg.So in my case thy will be 4ml ed or more.But synth has a local action or I can inject everywhere I wish and get the same results?I'm going to order some,but I've never messed with it.
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Originally posted by JFIta
Thx for reply.
I've red on the site to use 1mlx25kg.So in my case thy will be 4ml ed or more.But synth has a local action or I can inject everywhere I wish and get the same results?I'm going to order some,but I've never messed with it.
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You can inj anywhere you wish. You can do it subq, but subq you can only do 1ml per site, so if you do 4ml, then 4 subq injections. I prefer subq as it doesn't hurt and it's hassle free. Also, you can get away with the dosage every second day rather than everyday. That's what I do as I don't like injections that much.
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Kynoselen Length of Use
To those who have used / are using Kynoselen, how long do you recommend staying on it? How long off? Or is it something that doesn't need to be cycled (i.e. year round use).
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02-07-2002 03:30 PM
Big A
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Both kynoselen and syntheselen can be used year round as they are natural compounds.
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02-07-2002 06:27 PM
DESTRO
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What's the longest anyone here has stayed on kyno or synth?
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02-07-2002 06:32 PM
Stickman
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what would you say pros?....
use kynoselen or is it a waste of money and save money for aas cycles?
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02-08-2002 04:48 AM
Big A
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It certainly is worth it as it's results are like a mild steroid. But since it's natural, you won't get any adverse reactions as far as the HTPA goes, so you can take it year round and off cycles, which is very beneficial. Plus, since it's natural, you can't really overdose either. But that only applies to the syntheselen. You take too much kynoselen you are asking for trouble with your heart.
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02-08-2002 07:57 AM
DESTRO
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I've only been using it for 6 days but I think it's great. I'm seeing a decent amt. of fat loss and enhanced vascularity. As for a mild anabolic / anticatabolic, it's hard to tell at this point. I'm using Kynoselen though, not synth.
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02-08-2002 02:42 PM
w8ts
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Are you sticking it sub-Q or IM?
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02-08-2002 06:44 PM
DESTRO
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sub-q
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02-09-2002 12:38 AM
Phil Hernon
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SYNTHESELEN
THIS PRODUCT IMPROVED MY VASCULARITY IN 1 WEEK!!!! IS THAT NORMAL BIG A?? I WOULD DEFINATELY USE THIS IN YOUR CYCLE!! YOU NEED SYNTHERGINE ALSO, A CLEAN LIVER MEANS BIGGER MUSCLES!!!!
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Big A
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Re: SYNTHESELEN
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Originally posted by Phil Hernon
THIS PRODUCT IMPROVED MY VASCULARITY IN 1 WEEK!!!! IS THAT NORMAL BIG A?? I WOULD DEFINATELY USE THIS IN YOUR CYCLE!! YOU NEED SYNTHERGINE ALSO, A CLEAN LIVER MEANS BIGGER MUSCLES!!!!
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It makes you leaner, plus ATP is a slight vasodilator, so yes, vascularity increases very quickly.
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02-09-2002 07:20 AM
JFIta
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What are the difference between Kino and Syntheselen?
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02-10-2002 09:01 PM
Big A
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quote:
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Originally posted by JFIta
What are the difference between Kino and Syntheselen?
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Kynoselen contains AMP, to which many people are sensitive. As such, they can get heart palpitations due to it's extreme vasodilating properties. As well, you can't overdose on AMP, as it's very dangerous - ask Italmuscle - he passed out for 15 min from too much AMP! Also, the mineral balances in kynoselen cause many users cramps.
Syntheselen contains ATP, which from a bodybuilding point of view it's just as effective as AMP, but it does not cause the heart probs that kyno does. So you can use as much syntheselen daily as you wish. Also, the mineral variations in syntheselen have been varied as well so it doesn't cause cramps.
So, basically Syntheselen is more user friendly, safer and at least as effective as kynoselen. Plus syntheselen is made for humans, kynoselen for animals, so you are guaranteed a more safe, sterile product.
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JFIta
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Thx for reply.
I've red on the site to use 1mlx25kg.So in my case thy will be 4ml ed or more.But synth has a local action or I can inject everywhere I wish and get the same results?I'm going to order some,but I've never messed with it.
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02-11-2002 08:04 AM
Big A
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quote:
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Originally posted by JFIta
Thx for reply.
I've red on the site to use 1mlx25kg.So in my case thy will be 4ml ed or more.But synth has a local action or I can inject everywhere I wish and get the same results?I'm going to order some,but I've never messed with it.
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You can inj anywhere you wish. You can do it subq, but subq you can only do 1ml per site, so if you do 4ml, then 4 subq injections. I prefer subq as it doesn't hurt and it's hassle free. Also, you can get away with the dosage every second day rather than everyday. That's what I do as I don't like injections that much.
