I thought Scott Abel was a high volume guy until I saw Mike Israetel's volume recommendations And he doesn't believe in bro-splits either so all of that volume comes in multiple body part workouts which each must take a few hours to complete. But he seems to know his stuff.
Lmao that is low volume for back that's 2 diff exercises twice a week for 4 sets.. if that's a lot to you then you're not training hard enoughYea I was writing a 5 day split using his volume and was like...I need 8 days in a week to get all this volume in. 16-22 sets for back, 16-18 quads, 10-14 hams.....good lord
Lmao that is low volume for back that's 2 diff exercises twice a week for 4 sets.. if that's a lot to you then you're not training hard enough
Compared to DC training where you might do 4-5 sets a week, yea that’s a lot of volume.
Yea I was writing a 5 day split using his volume and was like...I need 8 days in a week to get all this volume in. 16-22 sets for back, 16-18 quads, 10-14 hams.....good lord
Don't mean to be disrespectful, but he's been in the business for a while and has yet to coach anyone remotely accomplished and has never looked particularly great. AFAIK he's sold hundreds of templates and coached a lot of clients. Yes, he's clearly a smart guy, but are his methods informed by science actually producing results? Seems like the answer is no...
Meadows or DC's methods may not be as scientific, but they've got hundreds of IFBB pros between the two of them.
I mean I'd love to be wrong if someone has an example of someone he's coached that's done well in competitive bbing, until then I'm going to take his recommendations with a grain of salt.
Don't mean to be disrespectful, but he's been in the business for a while and has yet to coach anyone remotely accomplished and has never looked particularly great. AFAIK he's sold hundreds of templates and coached a lot of clients. Yes, he's clearly a smart guy, but are his methods informed by science actually producing results? Seems like the answer is no...
Meadows or DC's methods may not be as scientific, but they've got hundreds of IFBB pros between the two of them.
I mean I'd love to be wrong if someone has an example of someone he's coached that's done well in competitive bbing, until then I'm going to take his recommendations with a grain of salt.
I don't know who this man is (the coach in the OP), or what his methods are, but whether or not he has coached top guys has little to do with the effectiveness of his methods. There are many popular coaches out there who don't recommend specific training methods or barely even advise on training, yet they are quite popular and have worked with many top guys. Time will tell whether or not his methods are sound, but the competitive status of his clients is not an indicator of competency. Rarely is a specific training methodology responsible for producing a top physique. The top bodybuilders are top bodybuilders because of other factors. Of course, training plays a huge role in one's development, but most of those guys would be pros regardless of the training style employed. Any of the more well known training systems (high volume and low volume, along with all of their variants) can produce a great physique when everything else is in place.
You bring up what may be a valid point, but just keep in mind that the most popular coaches are not necessarily the most knowledgeable about training.
I don't know who this man is (the coach in the OP), or what his methods are, but whether or not he has coached top guys has little to do with the effectiveness of his methods. There are many popular coaches out there who don't recommend specific training methods or barely even advise on training, yet they are quite popular and have worked with many top guys. Time will tell whether or not his methods are sound, but the competitive status of his clients is not an indicator of competency. Rarely is a specific training methodology responsible for producing a top physique. The top bodybuilders are top bodybuilders because of other factors. Of course, training plays a huge role in one's development, but most of those guys would be pros regardless of the training style employed. Any of the more well known training systems (high volume and low volume, along with all of their variants) can produce a great physique when everything else is in place.
You bring up what may be a valid point, but just keep in mind that the most popular coaches are not necessarily the most knowledgeable about training.