NICHOLLS THEORY ABOUT POST CYCLE??

LATS · Dec 15, 2003

in a recent rx muscle magazine they list what nicholls recommends about post cycle.. it only states hcg...no clomid.. no nolva ect.. i asked a buddy of mine about this who has takked with chad but, he did not discuss post cycle with him.. anyone have more info about hcg only theory of chads..

bigbadasian · Dec 15, 2003

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|--[\\\]>-------- Dont think i'll try HCG w/out Nolv. on hand...

DamageInc · Dec 15, 2003

Seeing as how i have been on for so many years staight i would like to see what guys reccomend using post cycle after being on for about 3 years straight. I was thinking just clomid for about a month but have been consideriing HCG as well and possibly nolvadex. I know plenty about what to use while on but coming off after 3 years has been a bit concerned to say the least. What you guys who have been on for long periods of time reccomend? For the first time in a long time i feel i need a few months off.

Nssca · Dec 15, 2003

Found this by doing a search on chad's board.
Hope it helps...

**broken link removed**

jig · Dec 15, 2003

DamageInc said:
Seeing as how i have been on for so many years staight i would like to see what guys reccomend using post cycle after being on for about 3 years straight. I was thinking just clomid for about a month but have been consideriing HCG as well and possibly nolvadex. I know plenty about what to use while on but coming off after 3 years has been a bit concerned to say the least. What you guys who have been on for long periods of time reccomend? For the first time in a long time i feel i need a few months off.

what I have found works well for me is to end extended cycle with three wks of prop...during the three wks of prop I run hcg, 1500-2000iu every 3-4 days with 20mgs nolva day....after three wks of prop, hcg, nolva......I run three wks clomid, 100mg day first wk then 50mgs day for two wks, I also run the 20mgs nolva with clomid..
I have ended last two long cycles this way and it has worked great! lost like 5lbs water and that was it...bigest thing is keeping your head into training and diet..don`t be a pussy and stop those two things, cuz then you`ll just lose everything you`ve gained...
hope this helps damage, this protocal lets you come off fairly easy, it ain`t bad at all.
good luck,
I also hope my buddy rajjin is reading this, he was inquiring about it on another board.
oh ya, is this the damage from the mighty UG?

DamageInc · Dec 15, 2003

Jig, that is perfect. I don't know why i didn't think about incorporating the prop for the last 3 weeks. Very good idea. Its been a long time since i have come off. I need a lot of help getting my body back to normal.

Swolecows · Dec 15, 2003

Nicholls doesn't know about post cycle because his people never come off. Post cycle to them is 500mg a week of test.

Mr Pickels · Dec 15, 2003

Swolecows said:
Nicholls doesn't know about post cycle because his people never come off. Post cycle to them is 500mg a week of test.

MikeS · Dec 16, 2003

I also think Chad tends to keep the good stuff 'secret' from the masses. Id use clomid-no doubt it interferes with the estro receptors in the HPTA better than anything, and reduces shutdown. I agree-HCG/nolv first. Clomid next. The pro is a new idea and I dont disagree, but that a new one to me.

Mr Pickels · Dec 16, 2003

by running prop for 3 weeks it would allow crap like enanthate, deca, EQ to work its way out of your system so then you can start the therapy right away..... i think?

jawbreakerkid · Dec 16, 2003

that's the idea...I always run prop for the last 4 weeks with nothing else. You figure cyp, enanthate, etc all take 4 weeks to clear out of your system. I don't run any post cycle therapy and don't have a problem with losing weight or strength. I'll lose a little bit (2-3 lbs.). I'll go a couple weeks where I'm not a raging sex-aholic like I normally am, but that's about it. I'm going to try some HCG after my current run to see if it can prevent that " down period" but IMO running prop for the last 4 weeks is a smart way to go.

jjrabbit · Dec 16, 2003

&^^#

how many mgs/wk of prop. do you run for that 4 weeks?

jig · Dec 16, 2003

Re: &^^#

jjrabbit said:
how many mgs/wk of prop. do you run for that 4 weeks?

I usually run 100mgs eod. run whatever your comfortable with...once you stop it should be out of your system in about three days.

jig · Dec 16, 2003

Mr Pickels said:
by running prop for 3 weeks it would allow crap like enanthate, deca, EQ to work its way out of your system so then you can start the therapy right away..... i think?

thats right, I`ve even thrown in some winny with the the prop for 3-4 wks. they both get out of your system quickly so you can start recovery that much faster.

NuTsOe · Dec 16, 2003

sounds like a good idea im gonna have to give that a try at the end of my current run,I love the idea of staying on an extra
month

jawbreakerkid · Dec 17, 2003

I like to taper it down, so maybe 500mgs-400-300-200...seems to work well for me. I know at 200mgs of test is aalot higher than your normal T production, but I still feel that coming down in dosage helps. Also, my "boys" never shrink while I'm on, that may have something to do with why my hpta seems to recover quickly with no meds...but I've never been able to get an answer as to what that indicates.

Ry Roid · Dec 17, 2003

All I gotta say is...

...DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ!! I don't know Chad but, it has been my experience that when they are charging big $$ they aren't gonna let people know their exact philosophies and programs.

RY

MikeS · Dec 17, 2003

RY-exactly what I meant!

Yes I always end cycle last 3wks or so with fast acting gear (like prop) only, for the same reason.

jig · Dec 17, 2003

DamageInc said:
Jig, that is perfect. I don't know why i didn't think about incorporating the prop for the last 3 weeks. Very good idea. Its been a long time since i have come off. I need a lot of help getting my body back to normal.

it ain`t that bad coming off...one thing I have found with me is by running extended cycles I seem to hold on to more then I do with the short ones.

ShawnRay · Dec 18, 2003

Damage...

I am with you Brother, I have been on now since 99'...I just cant come completely off so, I quit trying. I will go down to 200mgs a week for months on end but, never off, off... I just did a show on Nov 8th and swore i would come off after that show but, that lasted a week...I do HCG and Clomid every other month and take 40mgs Nolvadex everyday always..I even throw in two cialis a week for shits and giggles....Nothing nice to get a boner reading the newspaper....Im currently on 200mgs QV prop EOD w/ 100mgs Primo EOD and 200mgs Ultrgan EOD....I feel good and my strength is climbing back up after my show but, its nothing like my precontest stack....I felt like an animal for a while...Let me know if you truely come off for a while I would love to know how it goes for me as well.. I have one friend that has come off after being on for just over a year and im sorry im not ready for the way he looks...Id say 200mgs a week is off enough go for it....Later,SR