No way Jay is Mr.O

[khalnayak]

Worst Mr.O ever.

 

[Big B]

WOLF

Wolf is the best...28 years old makes me wanna hate my body

 

[khalnayak]

1.

 

[khalnayak]

2.

 

[khalnayak]

3.

 

[khalnayak]

,

 

[khalnayak]

.

 

[khalnayak]

Wolf.

 

[khalnayak]

sc

 

[muscledoc1]

Wolf will take it one day...just need some more of that back detail/thickness.

 

[gooey]

well

I am a wolf fan too, I saw him on milos' board when he was get low teen placings. I liked his physique then. Yes he was in better condition, was he screwed? How many times was Ronnies physique less then 100% and he still got the nod? Jay wasnt at his best I know, but he is a great ambassador to BBing. This isnt like football where the best team wins that day. It happens in the amatuer ranks also. Wolf has made his name now..... and set a standard and now has to equal or better it from this point on.

gooey

 

[Stang]

Are those guys using steroids?

 

[Swifto]

Victor should have won it.

Wolf lacks lower back development, hamstring, glute and bicep peak. Jay seems to have him on that, even though his condition was off.

Unless Jay improves greatly, I dont see him keeping his title next year.

Vic, Dex and Wolf are on his tail.

 

[Dusty Hanshaw]

Come on man. DW got fifth. He wasn't even close to getting the win. Is he the future of BBing? Maybe. He surely has the weapons but people need to look deeper than his shape. What lies between the frame is where you win. As far as Victor I could have seen him win but people need to understand that BBing is not just a sport, it's also a business. Jay was close enough to get the nod so that BBings best isn't a guy with a case pending. Vic can't even leave the country based on his legal situation. BBing has a big enough gray cloud overhead without crowning a new champ with these pending charges. Is it how it should be....NO, but that's how it is. There is a lot more to this sport than how you look and if you don't already know that it's time to wake up and smell the coffee.

 

[mrsoul]

If you're going to put pics up, why don't you use some of Jay where he's not in transition??

As a competitor I see this all too ofter. I'm not defending Jay, or dissing Wolf as both men are incredible.

As far as completeness goes Jay has it over Dennis. Dennis from the front lat spread is unbeatable in my opinion. Dennis has several bodyparts that are overpowering others. Quads don't match hamstrings from the sides, tris and bis look small in relation to his shoulders.

awesome point ae but these guys really hate jay! i think wolfe is deffinately a future mr. o as well. no one gives jay any credit here. one guy did not have jay in his top 7, lol!

 

[Pele96]

Come on man. DW got fifth. He wasn't even close to getting the win. Is he the future of BBing? Maybe. He surely has the weapons but people need to look deeper than his shape. What lies between the frame is where you win. As far as Victor I could have seen him win but people need to understand that BBing is not just a sport, it's also a business. Jay was close enough to get the nod so that BBings best isn't a guy with a case pending. Vic can't even leave the country based on his legal situation. BBing has a big enough gray cloud overhead without crowning a new champ with these pending charges. Is it how it should be....NO, but that's how it is. There is a lot more to this sport than how you look and if you don't already know that it's time to wake up and smell the coffee.

Very well said. Let me just add on to what was said by Dusty. How did Jay beat Ronnie? Not by being the more shapely of the two although you can argue that Jay is much better put together than Ronnie is. He beat him because he put on more size and finally got his conditioning to match. Now comes 2007 and Jay is at 274 5'9''...Dexter 5'6'' 225...Dennis Wolfe 5'11'' 250...Vic 5'9'' ( I think) 245.. To beat the champ you also have to beat him competely meaning over powering. You have to match up with size and conditioning and no one matched Jay's size except for Ronnie. And Ronnie was off. How about the year the Jay came in lighter and at his best conditioning yet and they still gave to Ronnie even after Ronnie was losing after the prejudgeing..Anyway it is what is it. You also have know how to present you package and I do not mean just flexing or posing either..

 

[ShaneH]

Come on man. DW got fifth. He wasn't even close to getting the win. Is he the future of BBing? Maybe. He surely has the weapons but people need to look deeper than his shape. What lies between the frame is where you win. As far as Victor I could have seen him win but people need to understand that BBing is not just a sport, it's also a business. Jay was close enough to get the nod so that BBings best isn't a guy with a case pending. Vic can't even leave the country based on his legal situation. BBing has a big enough gray cloud overhead without crowning a new champ with these pending charges. Is it how it should be....NO, but that's how it is. There is a lot more to this sport than how you look and if you don't already know that it's time to wake up and smell the coffee.

I agree with you Dusty!

 

[Tom]

Judging criteria

I don't think judging criteria should have anything to do if you are citizen of the year or an ex-con. If being an ambassador for the sport is that important then as part of training you should also have to go to the Dale Carnegie institute and make sure your hair is parted on the right side. It should purely be VISUAL and one's personality or personal life should bear no weight in deciding the winner of a physique competition. It's politics and marketability based on greed that have destroyed what this is supposed to be all about.

 

[gearheadz]

Come on man. DW got fifth. He wasn't even close to getting the win. Is he the future of BBing? Maybe. He surely has the weapons but people need to look deeper than his shape. What lies between the frame is where you win. As far as Victor I could have seen him win but people need to understand that BBing is not just a sport, it's also a business. Jay was close enough to get the nod so that BBings best isn't a guy with a case pending. Vic can't even leave the country based on his legal situation. BBing has a big enough gray cloud overhead without crowning a new champ with these pending charges. Is it how it should be....NO, but that's how it is. There is a lot more to this sport than how you look and if you don't already know that it's time to wake up and smell the coffee.

U could of not of said it better Dusty. Wo;lf shit 5th place for a 1st timer is great as I am sure alot of u will say that. Vic looked great but as they say it is hard to knock the champ out and yet he proved it again. Good jopb Jay. Now Ronnie getting 4th was a no way in my book.

 

[mikeheavypecs]

If I had judged this year, I would have put Victor 1st and Wolfe 2nd and then Jay 3rd....

Oh well..........such is the Olympia politics.............alot has to do with who would represent the sport the best and who would look best on the covers of the mags and on TV interviews. This is actually discussed in pre pre-judging judges meetings. Just like the Ms American beauty contest.........not much difference really in politics....

I say Wolfe's turn is next year!

Mike