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Gorilla mode nitric best non stim pre I’ve used. There’s no comparison. Shits max dosed with everything you’d want.
One teaspoon of Maeng da and 2500mgs of ALCAR gives you a good boost without the jitters, focus and feeling of wanting to get shit done, that's what kratom does at conservative amounts, plus the pain killing properties, do your research man!I've heard of people using strains of kratom. I'm a recovering addict so its out of the question for me so i do not speak from experience.
Can you elaborate? I don't see them as muscle builders, but more as a way to make training more fun. Do you think they are detrimental to muscle growth?They can give great workouts for a period of time, but they aren't good for building, or even maintaining, muscle
CEL Super Swole is the best non-stim I have used/sold. It does have artificial sweeteners though.
Serving Size: 1 Scoop
Servings Per Container: 20
L-Citrulline 6g
Glycerol Powder (std to 65% Glycerol)(GlycerPump) 2g
VitaSport Cherry Tart Cherry Extract 500mg
VASO6 (Green Tea Extract )(leaf) 300mg
Pine Bark (Pinus Pinaster) extract (95% Proanthocyanidins) 200mg
S7 (Green Coffee Bean Extract, Green Tea Extract, Turmeric Extract, Tart Cherry, Blueberry, Broccoli, Kale) 100mg
AstraGin Proprietary Blend (Astragalus Membranaceus Extract (root), Panax notoginseng Extract (root) 50mg
KannaEase (as Sceletium Tortuosum Standarized for Alkaloids (Total Alkaloids > .5%) & .2% Mesembrine) 25mg
Other Ingredients: Natural and Artificial Flavors, Malic Acid, Silicon Dioxide, Citric Acid, Sucralose, Red Beet Root (color), Acesulfame Potassium.
I think regular use of high amounts of stims can potentially be detrimental to growth, yes. Decreases recovery through increase CNS tax, increases in cortisol which could lead to catabolism, increases in metabolism which takes away from fuel for growth, etc.Can you elaborate? I don't see them as muscle builders, but more as a way to make training more fun. Do you think they are detrimental to muscle growth?
i personally think its weird anyone does pre workout stimulant supps.
i just dont get it.
i have never used one and have never seen a need to. i like to workout lol. i like to lift hard and intense.
dont need a f!@#$ing drink or pill to make me want to lol. weird as f to me.
slin pre workout of course lol besides that meh
-F2S
i personally think its weird anyone does pre workout stimulant supps.
i just dont get it.
i have never used one and have never seen a need to. i like to workout lol. i like to lift hard and intense.
dont need a f!@#$ing drink or pill to make me want to lol. weird as f to me.
slin pre workout of course lol besides that meh
-F2S
Like another member mentioned: The hands-down best pre-workout supplement is cannabis. So convenient now with vape pens. It's a no-brainer.