Now hes shitting bricks from customs...

[zephyr22]

Anyways my buddys pack has been in customs for 5 days. Which I told him was not good. Now, I told him to refuse the pack for sure if it tries to get delivered. Like I said I just dont want my name somehow brought up if stuff starts getting shifty. Im worried for him. I have no true advice for him. I guess its always a gamble a little but this could cause major stress. Heck it isnt me and its stressing me out. Allbeef maybe would have some ideas???? Anyone???? Anyone????? Thanks so much you guys all mean so much to me. One a much smaller note Im starting to eat a little better and training is falling in to place and Im thinking I may compete again. I always enjoyed it but family hated it. They thought it was bizarre to be in some small ass underwear posing in front of people. I guess it would seem bizarre to most but we are a different sport/breed of athelets. Well any help on the buddys customs issues???? And it did come through JFK so i guess that means that its harder to get through???Thanks agian all.

 

[rAJJIN]

Id say customs or the Fda got it.
About all he can do is Clean up (as you said he did) and Try to cover his tracjs best he can. Id dump the Computer for sure if theres one with any info at the deleivery address. It Happens, sometimes they get em.

Im glad to here Things are well and training is going good.
Deffinatley tell your buddy to let that one go.

 

[knucklehed]

5 days is nothing

I have waited longer. Much longer and faced no issues
KH

 

[Fullybuilt]

Have him clean house and computer. If he doesnt sign for anything and they still come in a search his house and find nothing, he can sue the department

 

[Jerkyboy]

THE LAW

It doesnt matter if the receiver signs for the pack or not!

Can't believe some of you guys still believe all that BS

if someone takes the pack, its considered yours. Wherever you take the pack (inside the house, in your car, to a friends house then take it inside his house) they now have legal right to get a warrant to search ALL THE PLACES u just took it.

The best thing to do is either deny delivery "I didnt order anything, its not even my name on the package, must be a mistake" or figure out a way to have your shipper send WITHOUT SIG. REQUIRED, that way it can be left outside for a few days.

If its hot, most likely they wont just let it sit next to your house or in your mailbox for any length of time.

Good Luck

 

[K1]

My question would be how does your friend know that it is sitting in Customs? Most times you can't even track an international package until attempted delivery, and only sometimes can you track it when it hits your local post office?

 

[Jerkyboy]

I dont know about that, but when I used to import bodybuilding supplements and it was sent USPS Xpress, the website always gave me information if it was sitting in Customs, or on its way.

Something like "Your item arrived in Customs on 10-10-06 and is awaiting processing, please check back later"

OR

"Your item was processed in Customs on 10-10-06 and is on its way to its final destination"


It usually also shows how many days it's been in Customs if I remember right

 

[The Real Mako]

Boy mate are you 100% correct... they will do a search on the name on the package and teh addy to see if there is a record of this kind of activity.. depending how much and what exactly is in teh package they will eitehr just send a letter or if there is enough gear in it they will do a delivery...

My advice is what many of you guys already stated
# 1 remove computer from house and erase all records on websites (mail)
# 2 clean any and all books, mail and address that had anything to do with deliveries for steroids
# 3 retain a good lawyer just in case, better to have a lawyer if you get arrested instead of looking for one from a jail cell... be prepared for the worse and hope for the best...

Better safe then sorry... If your buddy does get arrest be very polite, and simply say nothing, DON'T LIE, just say you want to call and talk to your lawyer.. best of luck to him

It doesnt matter if the receiver signs for the pack or not!

Can't believe some of you guys still believe all that BS

if someone takes the pack, its considered yours. Wherever you take the pack (inside the house, in your car, to a friends house then take it inside his house) they now have legal right to get a warrant to search ALL THE PLACES u just took it.

The best thing to do is either deny delivery "I didnt order anything, its not even my name on the package, must be a mistake" or figure out a way to have your shipper send WITHOUT SIG. REQUIRED, that way it can be left outside for a few days.

If its hot, most likely they wont just let it sit next to your house or in your mailbox for any length of time.

Good Luck

 

[The Real Mako]

My question would be how does your friend know that it is sitting in Customs? Most times you can't even track an international package until attempted delivery, and only sometimes can you track it when it hits your local post office?

Keep this in mind... once you have accessed information on the where-abouts of a package, via tracking number, you have given them your IP addy ( like the system Big A has set up) they can track that to your computer address thus your house... The more the tracking info is accessed the worse it looks if they look at who, when and how many times someone looked that info up...check status from a remote location if you HAVE to... personally i woudl take the loss even it the package shows up be very very leary ...

Good luck Mate..

 

[Steak Helmet]

500.00 worth of stuff is not worth 20,000 in attorney fees to get your ass out of trouble...

TRUST YOUR GUT!!!!

 

[Tyrone]

My question would be how does your friend know that it is sitting in Customs? Most times you can't even track an international package until attempted delivery, and only sometimes can you track it when it hits your local post office?

Bump this...how would you know it is actually in customs...I've tried to track and just because it has been sent and you cannot see anywhere else that it has been sent in the country doesn't mean shit...

 

[pistonpump]

FUCK!

customs came to my house and i told them i ordered it. i gave them a bottle of nolvadex too. they wanted to search my room but i said no. I feel like killing myself now. I should have not said shit but everything was in my real name, po box, package. Im sure they will be back with a search warrant. what are the penalties for this? they said its a felony in the state. Im so worried and stress i seriously want to jump off a bridge. Im so stupid.

 

[Fullybuilt]

Clean your house and get rid of computer. Make sure nothing illegal is there. Then, play and dumb and deny that you orderd. Say you have a few enemies that would like to see you get in trouble. Also say you had no idea what you signed for b/c you order legal stuff all the time and never rememeber.

 

[pistonpump]

i already admitted to ordering it online. i didnt sign for it. but they know now that i recieved another pack before so they are wondering if i have more in my room.

 

[rAJJIN]

zephyr,
is this your friend you were talking about?

 

[woody00]

that sounds odd that they made you flush your bottle of nolvadex if they took your word for it.. it could be anything..if i had some winny pills or something else i would say its nolvadex too. i think they would have kept it for lab anylasis. see what im saying??? also they are warning u that they are searching your house soon? if this story is true it sounds like u dodged a bullet.. thats just my opinion. maybe they are just scaring you, but dont take my word for it. if they wanted u they would have went out full fledged without warning with a search warrent.

 

[pistonpump]

no they never said they would be back or anything. but i feel like because i didnt let them search they are all suspicious maybe i have alot of stuff in my room. I dont look like a dealer tho lol.

 

[xcelbeyond]

Have him clean house and computer. If he doesnt sign for anything and they still come in a search his house and find nothing, he can sue the department

Give your hard drive to a buddy to keep for a while and reinstall all your programs on a new hard drive. Even though you've deleted info and used an "eraser" program, data is oftentimes still recoverable by an expert.

 

[taco]

How long in customs before one should begin to worry?

 

[allbeef]

Bro This Is Not Personal

But it is so important that we learn from others experiences.

Relax, you may very well get arrested and you will then probably end up pleading to a misdemeanor charge of possesion of a controlled substance. But if you have no significant criminal history, you will not go to jail and one day you will look back and see it as just one of lifes bumps. You already incriminated yourself, so if you are charged, you will need a local attorney with good relationships with the judge and prosecutor. You don't need a steroid attorney, just a good attorney who can work the plea for you and get you a soft landing.

It is rare that customs follows up on an east coast seizure, but this is the second time in about a month that I have heard of this happening. Why this is occuring I am not sure. They don't have the resources to be tracking down personal gear.

Don't you guys ever tell me it's okay to send gear to your home. Look on Friday if he knew it was in customs, he calls the mailbox shop and says " I have been transferred out of town unexpectedly and I need to close the box. " I am not expecting anything but if something should come in would you just return it to sender.

Now even if you don't close the box at the mailbox shop, you are still insulated in a way that keeps the pack out of your hands. They can know who you are, they can know you ordered it, but they can't force you to take possesion and you have time to get things in order even if you did have to come face to face with customs. Yes ultimately they can go before a judge and provide the seizure information and lie or exaggerate the facts and get an arrest warrant sworn out for you, but that is a lot of hassle and on the first seizure????.

How much easier for customs if they can just show up at the family home and put you in such an awkward position that in your discomfort you admit to ordering and using anabolic steroids. You make it easy and you will get phucked!

Seriously bro,

You are obviously a nice guy and fortunately, probably everyone including customs, the prosecutor, and the judge will recognize that and they won't bang you too hard. But you wasted time, money, and opportunity, by not being more careful about what you do and say.


This should have never happened like this, but everyone makes errors in judgement and fortunately there is a God who can reconcile even our biggest screwups.


Allbeef