Insomnia/sweats from Deca??

[Mufasa123]

It's very common for people to say they stop dreaming when smoking, right? When you stop there is a rebound the other way, my brother calls them "epic dreams" that are real scary lol. Makes sense. I suffer from night terrors but unfortunately weed does not stop me from dreaming, I would welcome that effect.

I never noticed such an effect one way or the other. Maybe slight with complete sudden cessation. Never heard anyone else say it either. That said this was a long time ago for me.

 

[copypastemuscle]

I gave up smoking weed a bit over a week ago. It's quite common to experience insomnia, night sweats, increased irritability when you quit. As others have mentioned, you tend to also have VIVID dreams. I had withdrawals whenever I was sober so decided to give it up. My sleep is starting to return back to normal and it feels great to have that mental sharpness back.

 

[KillerStack]

I never noticed such an effect one way or the other. Maybe slight with complete sudden cessation. Never heard anyone else say it either. That said this was a long time ago for me.

Really, you never heard of weed stopping dreaming in a lot of people? I've seen it mentioned a lot and even irl and I wonder how good that is in the long run, perhaps dreams have important functions.

 

[Mufasa123]

Really, you never heard of weed stopping dreaming in a lot of people? I've seen it mentioned a lot and even irl and I wonder how good that is in the long run, perhaps dreams have important functions.

I honestly don't follow anything recent in canabis. I smoked a ton in the early 90s and stopped. Never happened to me and I never heard anyone mention it. Then again, no one I knew got deca dick or had any issues with nandrolone either. Same with equipoise, no one had anything like low E2 symptoms. Point being, I guess it might or does in some (similar to deca/equip) but it was never mentioned. Don't even recall it even casually reading High Times. Certainly helped me sleep, I still dreamed, cold turkey off after being on for a while, more than once resulted in noticeable insomnia for the first week or so.

 

[neutrino]

I was on 200/wk of test for months and kicked up to 900 test and 600 deca a week about a month ago. No issues with sweats or sleep. BUT I was still taking 10-20mg indica gummy with a few vape hits. Sleep like a rock. I had to stop a short bit ago to pass a test this coming week. Sleep has been AWFUL since. Cant fall asleep and get sweats comparable to my worst experience on tren. I have tried Benadryl/Melatonin/Unisom and all I get is vivid nightmares which were especially awful last night.

Is it the obvious that it is just the stopping the THC products causing the insomnia and maybe the dreams causing the sweats? Or is nandrolone known to have those effects? I never had either on NPP but again was using THC. To be fair I have had sleep issues in the past and was prescribed a benzo by the VA which lead to years of them uptitrating the dose and severe dependency. This was before I was a nurse and knew better. The THC was a Godsend to wean off the benzo and sleep well.

I know stopping Deca now won't help as it will still be in my system all week and I can resume the THC after the test. I was just curious as I may forgo it in the future if it is the cause of either. But I dont remember ever having an issue with it before.

Crazy even with a medical card one cannot use THC and work in healthcare. I have literally heard someone say "If you need marijuana to sleep after a shift you aren't cut out for healthcare." after bragging about their cocktail of wine and Xanax nightly.

Could be the DECA as it affects dopamine levels/transport protein for some users - hence why many frontload cycles with P5P. But the cold stop of THC does not help. If it makes you feel any better, its nothing compared to a cold turkey heroin withdrawwal.

Try Valerian root + magnesium + zinc + melatonin. Knocks me out cold every night.

 

[Sectør]

Could be the DECA as it affects dopamine levels/transport protein for some users - hence why many frontload cycles with P5P. But the cold stop of THC does not help. If it makes you feel any better, its nothing compared to a cold turkey heroin withdrawwal.

Try Valerian root + magnesium + zinc + melatonin. Knocks me out cold every night.

+1 for magnesium glycinate

I’d even add l theanine to that list. Has a nice calming effect and is a natural supplement.

That combo works very well for me

 

[neutrino]

+1 for magnesium glycinate

I’d even add l theanine to that list. Has a nice calming effect and is a natural supplement.

That combo works very well for me

Man I wake up in middle of the night to piss and I feel borderline drunk from this combo. Magnesium glycinate is where its at (credit to Vigorous)

 

[Primoo]

That’s what happens when you take drugs like marijuana and have withdrawal. It’s not the deca . Lay off the drugs

 

[rtrnofbesoge]

Way more likely because you abruptly stopped using weed, like that's one thing you changed....

 

[monstaa]

im on low dose deca rn and i get night sweats sometimes but cant say its the deca causing it

even on test only i get night sweats sometimes when bulking pushing food hard

 

[Machoman23]

Quick update from last night... Slept ok. Not the best. But no dreams and no sweats. Def seems the OTC meds especially the melatonin were the culprit. Maybe silly to have wondered in the first place or I was just delirious from lack of sleep lol.

Melatonin made me feel super weird also gave me that sleep paralysis like experience too.

 

[DecaForDessert]

Melatonin made me feel super weird also gave me that sleep paralysis like experience too.

It's known for that. I refuse to ever dabble with it

 

[pimpman]

It's very common for people to say they stop dreaming when smoking, right? When you stop there is a rebound the other way, my brother calls them "epic dreams" that are real scary lol. Makes sense. I suffer from night terrors but unfortunately weed does not stop me from dreaming, I would welcome that effect.

Man I stared smoking when I was 12 I’m 53 I stopped smoking several years ago because the onset of anxiety just wasn’t worth it. And when I smoked I never dreamed. I use to say man I wish I could dream I wonder why I never dreamed. Be careful what you wish for. Since I stopped smoking I dream every single f***ing day. And it’s either nightmares or weird as shit dreams. Now I wish I wouldn’t dream anymore. It’s so bad I wake up from them fall back asleep and dream something else but it’s bad shit. To the point I say that’s it I’m getting up I’m not going back to sleep. I wish I could smoke again and not get the anxiety. And I get it for free from different friends. And I have a bunch all different kind just sitting there. Once in a blue moon I try and take like 2 or 3 tokes only my anxiety f**ks me up bad

And more weird I dream with things that I talk about or do during the day. For instance yesterday me and my girl did legs. Then I dreamed I was at the beach with her and got in a fight with her and I left and I couldn’t walk . Every time I would get up my legs would hurt so bad I fall to my knees and I say this f***ing leg workout. Freaking weird

 

[KillerStack]

Man I stared smoking when I was 12 I’m 53 I stopped smoking several years ago because the onset of anxiety just wasn’t worth it. And when I smoked I never dreamed. I use to say man I wish I could dream I wonder why I never dreamed. Be careful what you wish for. Since I stopped smoking I dream every single f***ing day. And it’s either nightmares or weird as shit dreams. Now I wish I wouldn’t dream anymore. It’s so bad I wake up from them fall back asleep and dream something else but it’s bad shit. To the point I say that’s it I’m getting up I’m not going back to sleep. I wish I could smoke again and not get the anxiety. And I get it for free from different friends. And I have a bunch all different kind just sitting there. Once in a blue moon I try and take like 2 or 3 tokes only my anxiety f**ks me up bad

And more weird I dream with things that I talk about or do during the day. For instance yesterday me and my girl did legs. Then I dreamed I was at the beach with her and got in a fight with her and I left and I couldn’t walk . Every time I would get up my legs would hurt so bad I fall to my knees and I say this f***ing leg workout. Freaking weird

I can relate with the anxiety. I smoke and then in a minute I'm like yeah I don't like this at all, it's like I'm drowning in a sense lol. It will pass but the experience is very unsettling when it's happening, I know I always think at those times about how I can't imagine the precise feeling when sober, I just suddenly realize, oh yeah here it comes, now I "remember" lol. But still I've smoked for months daily, because at times it is beautiful.

I've been suffering from some very painful dreams to the point I'm dreading going to sleep. Slightly different scenarios but the same type of issues always, tremendous grief, fear and sadness. I kicked a lamp and my laptop off my nightstand a few times, rolled off the bed too, not a very pleasant way to wake up lol.

 

[pimpman]

I can relate with the anxiety. I smoke and then in a minute I'm like yeah I don't like this at all, it's like I'm drowning in a sense lol. It will pass but the experience is very unsettling when it's happening, I know I always think at those times about how I can't imagine the precise feeling when sober, I just suddenly realize, oh yeah here it comes, now I "remember" lol. But still I've smoked for months daily, because at times it is beautiful.

I've been suffering from some very painful dreams to the point I'm dreading going to sleep. Slightly different scenarios but the same type of issues always, tremendous grief, fear and sadness. I kicked a lamp and my laptop off my nightstand a few times, rolled off the bed too, not a very pleasant way to wake up lol.

lol man you described it identical to me I swear. And I always knock the things off my night stand too how crazy is that. I can’t sleep side ways facing the night stand because I swing my hand in the middle of sleeping and slap the shit out of everything on it. The water bottles my meds then I have to get up in the middle of the night to clean it up. Because I have wood floors so I can’t let that water get soak into the wood