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Olympic designer steroids

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I find it very intriguing also. I hope we can get our hands on some of this that they are doing. The Cubans, Chinese, Iranians, Koreans. They're doing something.

What a stupid post, Cuba, Iran and Korea have nothing to do with China about drug technology.
 

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I think Romero is a piece of shit. He is so dirty and finds so many ways to cheat, just a little. However, he is a good fighter and has decent cardio for a guy that muscular. Really though, there aren't that many guys like him. Another one is Tyron Woodly. He looks like a bodybuilder on a bunch of stuff, but in a suit he's not that big, and he makes 170. I think guys like him and Romero are just genetic freaks. If they are using, it's the same stuff everyone else is. I do like the topic of cutting edge PED's though.
 

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I think Romero is a piece of shit. He is so dirty and finds so many ways to cheat, just a little. However, he is a good fighter and has decent cardio for a guy that muscular. Really though, there aren't that many guys like him. Another one is Tyron Woodly. He looks like a bodybuilder on a bunch of stuff, but in a suit he's not that big, and he makes 170. I think guys like him and Romero are just genetic freaks. If they are using, it's the same stuff everyone else is. I do like the topic of cutting edge PED's though.

Man, everyone "cheats". Holding the fence once? Every fighter has done that. Against Tim Kennedy, kennedy illegally held inside yoels glove. John mcharty told him to stay on the stoole because the UFC's cutman put too much vaseline on him.
 

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In Cuba there are hardly any supplements, the PEDs are far from exotic or advanced.

Cuban athletes are statesponsored. No one takes sports more Seriously than cuba. If You're telling me you think Yoel is clean, I dont know what Else to say. Its obvious you dont follow or train in combat sports knowing how hard and cardio demanding it is.

Iran also have something going on. Athletes in wrestling dont go up 30lbs of muscle in one year and win the world championships (Hassan Yazdani 190lbs 2017 Paris and Gold in olympics at 160lbs)
 

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I do not know who Yoel is, I do not care either.

I know bodybuilders who have lived in Cuba, there it is extremely difficult to get gear. Cuba is a poor country, does not have the resources to produce last generation drugs. Russia and China, yes.

I do not follow MMA, but I do weightlifting.

North Korea is using very old drugs, that is the reason in weightlifting have been captured a lot of athletes from NT and eastern countries.
 

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I do not know who Yoel is, I do not care either.

I know bodybuilders who have lived in Cuba, there it is extremely difficult to get gear. Cuba is a poor country, does not have the resources to produce last generation drugs. Russia and China, yes.

I do not follow MMA, but I do weightlifting.

North Korea is using very old drugs, that is the reason in weightlifting have been captured a lot of athletes from NT and eastern countries.

This just shows your ignorance.

You do not know anything about wrestling or how the Cuban olympic program works. They are statesponsored. They get designer drugs. Cuba as a whole is a poor socialist country. But there's a difference when you're in the olympic program in Cuba. You get free meals, drugs, water etc. This is well known in the community.
 

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This just shows your ignorance.

You do not know anything about wrestling or how the Cuban olympic program works. They are statesponsored. They get designer drugs. Cuba as a whole is a poor socialist country. But there's a difference when you're in the olympic program in Cuba. You get free meals, drugs, water etc. This is well known in the community.
Exactly Im around guys that wrestle on that level and its just not possible to be able to compete clean. Steroids are used increasingly after high school because everyone good has their technique down and outcomes are determined more by power. To be the best, you have to take whatever precautionary measures necessary to ensure you're as strong and fast as you possibly can be for your weight class. Having bad cardio is obviously inexcusable. I have regrets that I didn't take those measures myself, because I feel I could have been a national champion, maybe more. At the end of the day though my goal from a small boy was just to be a state champion, which I did once and came close the other three years. Lol I had that nemesis that was always at my weight high school, cadet nationals and college.
 

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I just don't see how anyone in the UFC can get away with taking anything with USADA's testing protocol. Every single fighter that was remotely muscular for their weight class looks nothing like they used to after USADA came in. Besides Romero. Maybe all the guys capable of looking like Romero are playing football or basketball because of the huge pay difference. An average football player is set for life if they're smart with their money. An average ufc fighter is struggling to make ends meet without supplemental income
 
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I just don't see how anyone in the UFC can get away with taking anything with USADA's testing protocol. Every single fighter that was remotely muscular for their weight class looks nothing like they used to after USADA came in. Besides Romero. Maybe all the guys capable of looking like Romero are playing football or basketball because of the huge pay difference. An average football player is set for life if they're smart with their money. An average ufc fighter is struggling to make ends meet without supplemental income

Top end fighters can find a sponsor with big money and connections to help them out. Lower level fighters not so much.
Don't be fooled USADA testing is good but not fool proof. I mean just watch the movie Icarus
 

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didn't the Balco Labs guy invent new variations of drugs every month or so to get his athletes thru testing?

That was prior to the carbon isotope testing. His stuff fooled the old t:e ratio tests. Conte said the way to eliminate steroids in sports is by doing a carbon isotope test on every sample. That was in the Joe Rogan podcast which I highly recommend that one.
 

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Top end fighters can find a sponsor with big money and connections to help them out. Lower level fighters not so much.
Don't be fooled USADA testing is good but not fool proof. I mean just watch the movie Icarus

Actually Icarus showed how good the testing has become. They had to rig the testing. If anything steroids are out and newer methods are being used. Peptides and insulin are hard to detect. Maybe some have legit myostatin drugs.
 

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This just shows your ignorance.

You do not know anything about wrestling or how the Cuban olympic program works. They are statesponsored. They get designer drugs. Cuba as a whole is a poor socialist country. But there's a difference when you're in the olympic program in Cuba. You get free meals, drugs, water etc. This is well known in the community.

Hahaha, tell me where Cuba is placed in each Olympiad? Never, they are never among the TOP 10.

Even Spain, a poor country with little pharmaceutical technology, is above.

Of course, nobody says that in Cuba they do not use drugs, but they are far from having magic and undetectable drugs.

If you tell me that in Kuwait they have something strange, I will buy it, if you tell me that Cuba has something strange, lol.
 

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Conte said the way to eliminate steroids in sports is by doing a carbon isotope test on every sample. That was in the Joe Rogan podcast which I highly recommend that one.

Nobody wants to eliminate steroids in sports, if they did, the business would be over.
 

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Nobody wants to eliminate steroids in sports, if they did, the business would be over.

We have a distorted view of steroids because of the sport we follow. In open bodybuilding they absolutely are needed. The gap between max size naturals and non is huge 75 lbs pounds for people really pushing drugs.

In other sports muscularity is useless. Strength, power, and speed are what matters. The majority of sports have a diminishing point of return when it comes to strength. Usually that can be reached without anabolics.
 

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Nobody wants to eliminate steroids in sports, if they did, the business would be over.

correct.

PED use is institutionalised and all the athletes, coaches, promoters etc know exactly what is going on.
 

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