Optimal igf-lr3 dosage

[tren]

Recently dosed 200 MCG post workout.

Literally couldn't keep myself from falling asleep.

Way worse than the lethargy from MK-677.

For a lack of better words I felt like a junkie nodding off.

Don't know if I'll be doing that again.

 

[johnjuanb1]

Recently dosed 200 MCG post workout.

Literally couldn't keep myself from falling asleep.

Way worse than the lethargy from MK-677.

For a lack of better words I felt like a junkie nodding off.

Don't know if I'll be doing that again.

Even 100mcg makes me need a nap. If i take it preworkout i take it with stimulants.

 

[Boss302123]

This was a helpful read as I want to try this stuff. Heard from some into muscle to be worked out, pre post. Heard inject anywhere, heard one dose then another.

 

[sciroxx-lab]

If anyone is interested in trialing different regimes and protocols and log I'll offer 70% discount on our IGF1, as well as special deals on the GH

(GH and IGF1 have a distinct synergistic effect, so it'll be interesting)

 

[MooseKnuckles]

If anyone is interested in trialing different regimes and protocols and log I'll offer 70% discount on our IGF1, as well as special deals on the GH

(GH and IGF1 have a distinct synergistic effect, so it'll be interesting)

I will be starting pretty soon, just waiting a few more days to get a better feel in my wrist

 

[concreter]

Dosing 100 mcgs Today Post workout. Mgf 1st as always!
Have not worked out in a week.
Gonna Load Up on the Micros and My Gramm's Soup!
Friday again 100 mcgs with 1/2 the micros all Clean except for a Few Beers. Tthen ready for the Last Showing of the Season On Saturday!

 

[5millionbucks]

Wouldn't injecting igf-lr3 right before workout give most people energy, especially incredible pumps?

 

[Thappy]

anyone get a hypo like feeling after LR3 shot? for around 10-15 hours after?

 

[Zapzap]

I ran it once on 100mcg a day 50 in morning and 50 pre workout

 

[concreter]

With its Insulin Effect on Blood sugars I find Post is Always Better!
Takin with A host of Micronutrients. For the next 24 hrs I find it impossible to Overfeed!
Even simple Tasks while active I find difficult and end up close to Hypo!
Another reason I only take prior to a Day Off"

 

[prodaf]

i like take GH, first morning and post workout and igf1lr3 pre bed

 

[Thappy]

Done a fair bit of experimenting with LR3 now and i have to say i dont think it matters where you inject it IM or Sub Q has the same effect regardless. Higher the dose the less effective it becomes. Also cant train frequently due to feeling hypo the next day.

50mcg on training days and doesnt really matter when i inject it just as long as i consume enough food im good. Pretty confident people over think the use of LR3 its not MOD

 

[slowmans789]

Been reading around here alot and it seems like alot of folk really like the IGF-1 LR3 and HGH combo. Does HGH & IGF-1 LR3 ultimately act on the same receptors?

Putting this out as I just want to learn more about these compounds, correct me if I'm wrong but:
-Exo HGH eventually travels to our liver, stimulating the release of more igf-1; ultimately raising our IGF-1 levels, allow us to get the much wanted benefits such as cell hyperplasia, etc...
-IGF-1 LR3 does the same thing but doesn't do through liver stimulation but instead as a source of exogenous IGF.

Do they ultimately achieve the same thing which is the benefits of having elevated levels of IGF-1? If true, is stacking HGH and IGF-1 LR3 useless? I hear folk swearing by this to counteract decreased insulin sensitivity from HGH because apparently IGF-1 LR3 makes you more insulin sensitive. Can someone more knowledgeable/experienced chime in on this?

Also since IGF-1 LR3 cause IGF receptors to burn out quickly, would going back on HGH post IGF-1 LR3 cycle be useless as now your IGF receptors won't be sensitive to your natural liver IGF-1?

 

[sciroxx-lab]

Been reading around here alot and it seems like alot of folk really like the IGF-1 LR3 and HGH combo. Does HGH & IGF-1 LR3 ultimately act on the same receptors?

Putting this out as I just want to learn more about these compounds, correct me if I'm wrong but:
-Exo HGH eventually travels to our liver, stimulating the release of more igf-1; ultimately raising our IGF-1 levels, allow us to get the much wanted benefits such as cell hyperplasia, etc...
-IGF-1 LR3 does the same thing but doesn't do through liver stimulation but instead as a source of exogenous IGF.

Do they ultimately achieve the same thing which is the benefits of having elevated levels of IGF-1? If true, is stacking HGH and IGF-1 LR3 useless? I hear folk swearing by this to counteract decreased insulin sensitivity from HGH because apparently IGF-1 LR3 makes you more insulin sensitive. Can someone more knowledgeable/experienced chime in on this?

Also since IGF-1 LR3 cause IGF receptors to burn out quickly, would going back on HGH post IGF-1 LR3 cycle be useless as now your IGF receptors won't be sensitive to your natural liver IGF-1?

There is plenty of scientific literature to show an additive anabolic effect when GH and IGF1 are combined (which of course indicates that they have multiple different paracrine and autocrine effects). GH and IGF1 has a distinct synergistic effect both on ananbolism (and anati-catabilism) as well as the metabolism,

Here are a couple of examples -

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9129466
------------conclusions -
GH and IGF-I combined further enhanced fat oxidation while reducing protein catabolism. Serum insulin concentrations were significantly increased by GH but decreased by IGF-I. GH significantly decreased serum total triiodothyronine concentrations and IGF-I significantly decreased serum corticosterone concentrations.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10571453
-----------results and conclusions
RESULTS:
Administration of IGF-I, but not GH, attenuates dexamethasone-induced protein catabolism and increases insulin sensitivity. Simultaneous treatment with GH and IGF-I additively increases the serum concentration of IGF-I, whole-body anabolism, and lipid oxidation. GH or IGF-I when given alone produces similar increases in the serum concentration of IGF-I. However, GH selectively increases skeletal muscle mass whereas IGF-I selectively attenuates the intestinal atrophy and abnormal intestinal ion transport induced by TPN. These tissue-selective anabolic effects of GH and IGF-I are associated with differential increases in protein synthesis in skeletal muscle and jejunum, respectively.
CONCLUSIONS:
Simultaneous treatment with GH and IGF-I may offer the greatest clinical efficacy because of improved nitrogen retention in association with enhanced lipid oxidation and stimulation of protein synthesis in multiple tissue types.

 

[Joltan]

Anyone get super lethargic and fatigued when taking IGF-1 LR3?

It was very noticeable for me, only on 50mcg post workout.

 

[slowmans789]

Anyone get super lethargic and fatigued when taking IGF-1 LR3?

It was very noticeable for me, only on 50mcg post workout.

Yes, I only take evenings postworkout because the lethargy hits me hard. I usually have sleep anxiety and can't get more than 7 hours of sleep a night no matter how hard I try but when I'm on LR3 I sleep 10-12 hours.

 

[slowmans789]

There is plenty of scientific literature to show an additive anabolic effect when GH and IGF1 are combined (which of course indicates that they have multiple different paracrine and autocrine effects). GH and IGF1 has a distinct synergistic effect both on ananbolism (and anati-catabilism) as well as the metabolism,

Here are a couple of examples -

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9129466
------------conclusions -
GH and IGF-I combined further enhanced fat oxidation while reducing protein catabolism. Serum insulin concentrations were significantly increased by GH but decreased by IGF-I. GH significantly decreased serum total triiodothyronine concentrations and IGF-I significantly decreased serum corticosterone concentrations.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10571453
-----------results and conclusions
RESULTS:
Administration of IGF-I, but not GH, attenuates dexamethasone-induced protein catabolism and increases insulin sensitivity. Simultaneous treatment with GH and IGF-I additively increases the serum concentration of IGF-I, whole-body anabolism, and lipid oxidation. GH or IGF-I when given alone produces similar increases in the serum concentration of IGF-I. However, GH selectively increases skeletal muscle mass whereas IGF-I selectively attenuates the intestinal atrophy and abnormal intestinal ion transport induced by TPN. These tissue-selective anabolic effects of GH and IGF-I are associated with differential increases in protein synthesis in skeletal muscle and jejunum, respectively.
CONCLUSIONS:
Simultaneous treatment with GH and IGF-I may offer the greatest clinical efficacy because of improved nitrogen retention in association with enhanced lipid oxidation and stimulation of protein synthesis in multiple tissue types.

Awesome, thanks for sharing those papers.

Do you think getting back onto HGH post IGF-1 LR3 cycle would be effective? Or should I completely back off all peptides for the cooldown cycle?

Also do you know any academic literature or anything anecdotal regarding IGF-1 LR3 and its effects on the nervous system? Seems like Victor Conte (BALCO olympics drug guy) say a lot of sprinters take this stuff but mostly for its effects on nervous system.

 

[Frogger2]

doing well at 40-50 daily