PGCL and DNP

Vespa103 · May 10, 2007

I am taking PGCL into gyno 50 mcg twice a day and adding about 400mg of DNP. Both products are tolerable at that dosage and site injection into fat instead of muscle seriously reduces the sides from PGCL. Anyway will see how it goes have done DNP only cycles before with great results but at higher dosage. Hoping a moderate dose of both will work well. Also takin aldacton and letro to reduce water bloat and using winny to hold onto tissue. Will pay extra attention to hydration

Cheers

km2000 · May 10, 2007

Vespa103 said:
I am taking PGCL into gyno 50 mcg twice a day and adding about 400mg of DNP. Both products are tolerable at that dosage and site injection into fat instead of muscle seriously reduces the sides from PGCL. Anyway will see how it goes have done DNP only cycles before with great results but at higher dosage. Hoping a moderate dose of both will work well. Also takin aldacton and letro to reduce water bloat and using winny to hold onto tissue. Will pay extra attention to hydration

Cheers

your nuts, your taking a diretic with dnp? not safe...... just a warning

The Wolf · May 10, 2007

km2000 said:
your nuts, your taking a diretic with dnp? not safe...... just a warning

Aint we all

but on the serious side, I wouldnt do it either, they both make you feel like shit and can mess you up.......... Poimenant.... you hear that kid it can hoit ya poimenant!

allbeef · May 10, 2007

Thats Insane Bro

Nobody knows enough about PGCL, but what I think is clear is that it is a substitute for DNP. I myself lost one pound a day for the first three weeks on PGCL. I also stayed on it for a month which I think was way too long. I sufferred some real insideous emotions after 1 month. But to be mixing a drug we haven't even figured out with DNP is crazy. You aren't going to have a clue if something goes wrong and no ER in any country will know how to help you when you show up.

You may be okay, but when PGCL appears to be as effective and maybe better tolerated for profound weight loss than DNP, why would you mix them?

Allbeef

vadim_b1 · May 11, 2007

Stop now before you develop serious problems.

dragonfire101 · May 11, 2007

I would take the advice of others and use them seperate. Try the PGCL for a few weeks and see how it goes and then stop the PGCL and maybe start the dnp right after if you want to use both.

bigbadasian · May 11, 2007

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what are the sides that most ppl experience from pgcl?

jaybird151 · May 11, 2007

you have to run to the toilet about 10 mins after each shot --------gets kind of painful after a couple of days. I took imodium with it and it helped but your ass is defiantly going to be sore

but the weight loss very apparent

jaybird

lookingforanedge · May 11, 2007

Any way this can be made into a transdermal?

bulldog21 · May 11, 2007

Not to sound like a dick but whatever happened to people doing cardio?

Sorry I don't mean to stick my nose in your business but these chemicals just seems pretty dangerous is all.....To each their own....

The Wolf · May 11, 2007

I dont mean to sound like a dick either but come on Bulldog, next we are gonna have sombody say "what happened to people just eating to get bigger, why the steroids?"

Sure cardio works but when your close to competition and your doing all the cardio and dieting hard but you still need an edge, what are you gonna do?

And it is your bussiness as well, you have a right to your opinion and this is an open forum

km2000 · May 11, 2007

bulldog21 said:
Not to sound like a dick but whatever happened to people doing cardio?

Sorry I don't mean to stick my nose in your business but these chemicals just seems pretty dangerous is all.....To each their own....

ya i agree man, it seems we have seen a lot of these types of posts lately... i am not apposed to any experiementing with these things. but many people are taking drugs befor they have even set foot in the gym or a treadmill for that matter... it really is funny though, you see all the diet pills on t.v. with "hoodia" and the newest herbs in them! and people get there credit cards and call to order.... its funny! shit i should invent a pill and have some of the pro muscle bros here endorse it, and do a 20 min infomercial at night and we could all split the profits... you could make a mint of that!

Vespa103 · May 13, 2007

Ok well results are good have lost 10lbs in a couple days. Abs are showing well. However tired of feeling hot. Have to go to work tomorrow so calling it off. I will say that PGCL is not for me don't like sides I prefer to sweat on the DNP. I found myself taking less PGCL and popping more dnp.

Anyway I usually go from 225 to about 205 in about 10 days on DNP. This time I added PGCL and stopped at 212. Just wanted to share and you guys act like I have never been to the gym. Could cardio and a strict diet do the same thing? yeah maybe in about 3 months. Pool opened yesterday swam 20 laps and laid out. Unfortunatly ran into a monster yesterday so now I feel small and want to add size.

The Wolf · May 13, 2007

Yeah Im with you Vespa, some people can be hypicritical. I get people that preach to me not to take gear and then I find that after a while they start a cycle themselves. Weather we are talking about fat burners or steroids, they are both powerfull and potentially dangerous drugs and looking at your picture you sure dont look like a begginer. I think more respect is due.