Phil Heath exact dosages - Let another thread commence

[pistonpump]

 

[KillerStack]

Hate to bump an old thread like this but I was aware of Phil's claim a few weeks ago to have taken less than everybody but I didn't hear what he actually said until a few minutes ago

He says he did the USAs on 500 test and "a shot of deca" per week. So 700-800mg per week.

Not that it matters but from a respected guy here:

"Killer stack ......I was actually put in touch with Phil heath and Frank Mc grath at about the same time .....both were interested in my help because they heard I was knowledgable ....and wasn't some gay shmoe type or looking to swing from their nuts .....they both were really broke and heard I liked to help people .....Phil health "stack was 800 mg of t-400 and 40 eq .....with zero gh [Frank's was more than double that ].....this was maybe 4 months before his USA win"

I don't even think they, the competitors, remember exactly, a shot of Deca or EQ (I think he wanted to write 400 instead of 40.) Minor differences, perhaps not worth arguing about, they just throw some shit at it and see what happens. Of course there will be guys whispering "add some Winstrol at least" in his ear. It's the USAs, come on.
Even with the best genetics ever they are not easy to win if not conditioned.

Further from Iabadman:

"The last e-mail I reciecved from Phil when I didn't end up helping him said he was looking into gh , winnie ,test , and tren .....but seeing his pics of the usa that yr ..I 'd say he probably didn't use gh ....as his condidtion was very dry and lines were nice and clean ....plus he only weighed 212"

Poor Flex wheeler, he needed about 3 grams and GH even if only half an iu every other day. Some guys just don't have the genetics (lighthearted sarcasm.)

 

[Biggerp73]

Not that it matters but from a respected guy here:

"Killer stack ......I was actually put in touch with Phil heath and Frank Mc grath at about the same time .....both were interested in my help because they heard I was knowledgable ....and wasn't some gay shmoe type or looking to swing from their nuts .....they both were really broke and heard I liked to help people .....Phil health "stack was 800 mg of t-400 and 40 eq .....with zero gh [Frank's was more than double that ].....this was maybe 4 months before his USA win"

I don't even think they, the competitors, remember exactly, a shot of Deca or EQ (I think he wanted to write 400 instead of 40.) Minor differences, perhaps not worth arguing about, they just throw some shit at it and see what happens. Of course there will be guys whispering "add some Winstrol at least" in his ear. It's the USAs, come on.
Even with the best genetics ever they are not easy to win if not conditioned.

Further from Iabadman:

"The last e-mail I reciecved from Phil when I didn't end up helping him said he was looking into gh , winnie ,test , and tren .....but seeing his pics of the usa that yr ..I 'd say he probably didn't use gh ....as his condidtion was very dry and lines were nice and clean ....plus he only weighed 212"

Poor Flex wheeler, he needed about 3 grams and GH even if only half an iu every other day. Some guys just don't have the genetics (lighthearted sarcasm.)

Yeah I don't think they remember


What serious user does?


Ask me what I was using a year ago, I could give you a rough estimate, but not exact details

And I think a lot of these guys have approaches that involve using everything under the sun all at once.. Jeremy Buendia told a guy at my gym what he was taking, and it was 250-700 mg per week of about 7 different compounds.. tren, mast, eq, test, var, winny, anadrol, primo.. something like that

 

[Biggerp73]

Not that it matters but from a respected guy here:

"Killer stack ......I was actually put in touch with Phil heath and Frank Mc grath at about the same time .....both were interested in my help because they heard I was knowledgable ....and wasn't some gay shmoe type or looking to swing from their nuts .....they both were really broke and heard I liked to help people .....Phil health "stack was 800 mg of t-400 and 40 eq .....with zero gh [Frank's was more than double that ].....this was maybe 4 months before his USA win"

I don't even think they, the competitors, remember exactly, a shot of Deca or EQ (I think he wanted to write 400 instead of 40.) Minor differences, perhaps not worth arguing about, they just throw some shit at it and see what happens. Of course there will be guys whispering "add some Winstrol at least" in his ear. It's the USAs, come on.
Even with the best genetics ever they are not easy to win if not conditioned.

Further from Iabadman:

"The last e-mail I reciecved from Phil when I didn't end up helping him said he was looking into gh , winnie ,test , and tren .....but seeing his pics of the usa that yr ..I 'd say he probably didn't use gh ....as his condidtion was very dry and lines were nice and clean ....plus he only weighed 212"

Poor Flex wheeler, he needed about 3 grams and GH even if only half an iu every other day. Some guys just don't have the genetics (lighthearted sarcasm.)

Yeah I don't think they remember


What serious user does?


Ask me what I was using a year ago, I could give you a rough estimate, but not exact details

And if I told you, I'd give a rough estimate of the major drugs, but underestimated, because (1) I don't want you to hurt yourself by imitating , and (2) I want you to think I have better genetic than I do... but I won't even mention anything I'm just tinkering around with.. say I was throwing in an oral here and there or shooting some different peptides or something.. that's not getting listed

And I think a lot of these guys have approaches that involve using everything under the sun all at once.. Jeremy Buendia told a guy at my gym what he was taking, and it was 250-700 mg per week of about 7 different compounds.. tren, mast, eq, test, var, winny, anadrol, primo.. something like that