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PIP from CYP

22 micron millipore pvdf filters in 500ml sizing are cheap. A brake bleeder for pressure is $30 one time buy. A 500ml media bottle is 50 ten ml vials so should last you a long time for personal use. A shit load and easy set it and forget it step (check and reapply vacuum a few times if needed).
 
Cold brew is good for small amounts of stuff .

Also if u don't filter test not sure how y'all have gotten away with that without a infection cause test is full of trash these days
Never once got an infection from it. Daily shots for years on end bro. But im
A logger. When I get cut open I throw dirt in my wound and cover it a duct tape. Never once in all my life got an infection from walking around with iopej wounds and this is a nearly daily occurrence. People are worry warts. Pit bodies are so tough. At least mine has been. Never used a band aid or ointment or any of that bullshit and I heal great.
 
It seems like we're having more of these threads about PIP from long ester testosterone over the last year. I find it strange that this thread has many saying they had bad experiences with cypionate when past threads were always about enanthate.

For whatever it's worth I've been using testosterone enanthate since I started injecting and have never had PIP unless it was 400mg+ per CC in one shot.
Yeah I’m surprised by all these threads honestly. I’ve been using test E ever since I started as well and never have had any issues. However, I also pin daily (EOD at minimum) so my oil amounts of it are never TOO ridiculous at once… wonder if that’s and factor.
 
Never once got an infection from it. Daily shots for years on end bro. But im
A logger. When I get cut open I throw dirt in my wound and cover it a duct tape. Never once in all my life got an infection from walking around with iopej wounds and this is a nearly daily occurrence. People are worry warts. Pit bodies are so tough. At least mine has been. Never used a band aid or ointment or any of that bullshit and I heal great.
I've heard of a lot of guys not filtering their shit, they just pick some oil up and the grocery store, pour it in and boom ready to go. Bacteria doesn't grow in oil very well, water yes. I remember when SEO first came out and it was rumored to be just mct oil. I had a buddy that just drew the MCT oil out of the brown glass bottle it came in and went to town. I remember the brovel shit would give folks lumps that didn't seem to go away. I might use a .45 if I was to ever brew shit again but I probably wouldn't to be honest
 
Supplier never made one offer to take care of it. I had another bro try it same thing swollen and hurt like hell.
Reach out to rep ? If that don't work reach out to mod .

I would differently have a different sponsor next time around also .
 
Reach out to rep ? If that don't work reach out to mod .

I would differently have a different sponsor next time around also .
The problem is nobody's offering proof that there's an issue with the testosterone oil or raws. Everything is anecdotal reports.

PIP doesn't always mean something was poorly brewed. You could be allergic to the specific carrier oil being used. You could have high inflammation from too many injections leading to PIP. There are many causes.

I'm not saying there's nothing wrong with long ester testosterone today. What I am saying is 1) nobody has provided solid evidence that oils or raws or tainted; and 2) in 8 years of injecting testosterone I've never had PIP from it unless it was 400mg+/CC in one shot.
 
The problem is nobody's offering proof that there's an issue with the testosterone oil or raws. Everything is anecdotal reports.

PIP doesn't always mean something was poorly brewed. You could be allergic to the specific carrier oil being used. You could have high inflammation from too many injections leading to PIP. There are many causes.

I'm not saying there's nothing wrong with long ester testosterone today. What I am saying is 1) nobody has provided solid evidence that oils or raws or tainted; and 2) in 8 years of injecting testosterone I've never had PIP from it unless it was 400mg+/CC in one shot.
I have been pinning for 23 years. This is a first to have any thing like this on a scale of 10 . I gave 2 bottles to some bros same exact situation and the are experienced users as well. Swollen for days and red with heat. I know a bad batch went around for awhile from china as well.
 
So...any chance that the rest of us on reading these threads can avoid these known Cyp 'brands' that are bunk and causing PIP? Or does it break board rules to discuss product brand names? Otherwise we're all here wasting hours researching threads and guessing which 'brands' are causing PIP? I think it would be prudent to share this information to look out for each other. And if sponsors who carry such brands, will be more apt to fixing the problems and making things right. This will also save members feeling the need to PM other members to get brand names. I should also note that I am not suggesting or asking anyone to out a source or make complaints, but simply name the brand. It would save us all a huge pain in the 'ass' and not waste our dedicated time in the gym trying to train while dealing with PIP.
 
So...any chance that the rest of us on reading these threads can avoid these known Cyp 'brands' that are bunk and causing PIP? Or does it break board rules to discuss product brand names? Otherwise we're all here wasting hours researching threads and guessing which 'brands' are causing PIP? I think it would be prudent to share this information to look out for each other. And if sponsors who carry such brands, will be more apt to fixing the problems and making things right. This will also save members feeling the need to PM other members to get brand names. I should also note that I am not suggesting or asking anyone to out a source or make complaints, but simply name the brand. It would save us all a huge pain in the 'ass' and not waste our dedicated time in the gym trying to train while dealing with PIP.
I'd say that similar to what @danieltx has already said and alluded to a few times in this thread, there is no particular brand/source that is being called out by a bunch of people and also, there's no real proof of widespread raws issues. It's literally a random person here or there saying they're getting unreasonable pip from a particular drug from one particular source at that moment.

I've used products from a number of sources here and haven't experienced any pip that I would consider out of the norm, ever. And I could be wrong but I don't know of any source here that has been widely accused as having overly-pippy or 'bunk' products (I mean, at least among all the biggest, most popular sponsors within the first couple pages of the source forum), at least that is still surviving and doing business.

I think being able to call out a source is fine if there was a situation where a bunch of members were posting up in a source's thread that they ALL were experiencing crazy pip, etc. But that's exactly what the source threads are for....to view feedback from other customers and make a well informed decision. If a source I'm considering using has page after page of overall excellent feedback and reviews (on the actual products, not just T/A 😉) I can feel reasonably comfortable that they're good to go.

One small trend I've noticed more on another forum and within some source threads on that site is some people talking about having issues/sensitivity with MCT based products versus say, GSO, so it may be worthwhile to just try a product or two of something in MCT if all you've used is GSO or CSO and you're concerned about it. Just some thoughts!
 
I have some Masteron Enanthate 200mg that is giving me PIP with MCT oil as the carrier. You think it's because of the BA? Supposed to be from a lab in another country and legit. They do testing and show test results on the website.
 
I'd say that similar to what @danieltx has already said and alluded to a few times in this thread, there is no particular brand/source that is being called out by a bunch of people and also, there's no real proof of widespread raws issues. It's literally a random person here or there saying they're getting unreasonable pip from a particular drug from one particular source at that moment.

I've used products from a number of sources here and haven't experienced any pip that I would consider out of the norm, ever. And I could be wrong but I don't know of any source here that has been widely accused as having overly-pippy or 'bunk' products (I mean, at least among all the biggest, most popular sponsors within the first couple pages of the source forum), at least that is still surviving and doing business.

I think being able to call out a source is fine if there was a situation where a bunch of members were posting up in a source's thread that they ALL were experiencing crazy pip, etc. But that's exactly what the source threads are for....to view feedback from other customers and make a well informed decision. If a source I'm considering using has page after page of overall excellent feedback and reviews (on the actual products, not just T/A 😉) I can feel reasonably comfortable that they're good to go.

One small trend I've noticed more on another forum and within some source threads on that site is some people talking about having issues/sensitivity with MCT based products versus say, GSO, so it may be worthwhile to just try a product or two of something in MCT if all you've used is GSO or CSO and you're concerned about it. Just some thoughts!
Well, I still think it would be beneficial to all members to know what brand is causing the PIP. And yes, I know that everyone responds differently to the same products (PEDS) as myself personally have had PIP using the same product, on some shots and not others. But that comes down to something different causing the PIP. So, by naming the brand here in this thread, will at least give all of us a heads up on something that may be risky, and at least give us all something to consider when going to choose a product to run. And/or it may get others to chime in to share their experiences with the same brand, good or bad. That would help narrow down if it is the brand or an individual user. So my question is...why can the brand not be named? Secret squirrel shit? There's too many sources and brand options for us to be playing the guessing game. And as far as outing a source, yes I agree there is a time and place, but my reference to not naming the source was in reference to this thread, about a brand, not a source.
 
Well, I still think it would be beneficial to all members to know what brand is causing the PIP. And yes, I know that everyone responds differently to the same products (PEDS) as myself personally have had PIP using the same product, on some shots and not others. But that comes down to something different causing the PIP. So, by naming the brand here in this thread, will at least give all of us a heads up on something that may be risky, and at least give us all something to consider when going to choose a product to run. And/or it may get others to chime in to share their experiences with the same brand, good or bad. That would help narrow down if it is the brand or an individual user. So my question is...why can the brand not be named? Secret squirrel shit? There's too many sources and brand options for us to be playing the guessing game. And as far as outing a source, yes I agree there is a time and place, but my reference to not naming the source was in reference to this thread, about a brand, not a source.
I absolutely agree but you know how that goes - if anyone says anything negative about any sponsor you immediately have 10 guys saying they're lying, a shill for someone else, mad about something, etc. You'd think guys would want to know who's got bad stuff but if anyone says a name guys refuse to believe it.
 
Again, I'm not suggesting to name the actual sponsor or source. Just the product 'brand' name. However, unfortunately, some brands are exclusive to certain sources, so indirectly it may expose the source. But this is nothing to do with making complaints, or outing sources. Simply a way for all of us to be aware that a certain product may be an issue, thus be cautious before ordering. And to be honest, if all the sources and sponsors are backing up their products and reputations, this is an excellent opportunity for them to also be aware of potential product issues and be able to nip it in the bud. If.....there is a pattern and more members also having the same or similar issues.
 
I absolutely agree but you know how that goes - if anyone says anything negative about any sponsor you immediately have 10 guys saying they're lying, a shill for someone else, mad about something, etc. You'd think guys would want to know who's got bad stuff but if anyone says a name guys refuse to believe it.

I wish more people would speak up. It's kind of humorous how we all talk about sources privately and I've talked to enough random people in pm's here that seem to have problems with the same sources. Would be nice if we could all speak up without other members causing bullshit.
 
I've had the same thing happen to me, injection site(glute) swells up a day after injecting it. Numbness and pain radiating down to my knee on the same side I injected it into making it Painful to bend over. Pain finally goes away after about 5 days.
 
PIP in my experience is not from any certain ester.

Sus, cyp, ace, enth etc…can all be smooth or cause pain.

Chances are the brewer used too much Benzyl Alcohol. Toss it or dilute it. I would toss it. Its the cost of doing business when test is $10/vial.
 
PIP in my experience is not from any certain ester.

Sus, cyp, ace, enth etc…can all be smooth or cause pain.

Chances are the brewer used too much Benzyl Alcohol. Toss it or dilute it. I would toss it. Its the cost of doing business when test is $10/vial.
I highly doubt ba is responsible for pip, it should evaporate in 5 minutes, I can try it, if a ml of any aa has 2% ba its what? 2 iu's on the slin pin, so I could take triple that amount by it's self and report back
 

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