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tiny2
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Proposed Gh cycle
Let me know what you Bro's think
16 week GH cycle
2iu Gh, 4 times a day
6iu insuline, 2 times a day
Gh is taken 2 hours before cardio in morning, insulin immeditaly after, second Gh 1 hour after insulin. Third Gh 2 hours before weigth training, insulin immeditaly after, fourth Gh 1 hour after insulin.
T-3, 25mcg every day(ed) for 7 weeks, then 2 weeks off, and back on for 7 weeks
AS Components
week 1-4 ...600mg deca
week 1-4 ...600mg sustanon
week 1-4 ...40 or 50mg dbol (ed)
week 5-8 ...600mg eq
week 5-8 ...600mg Test cyp
week 9-12 ..600mg deca
week 9-12 ..600mg sustanon
week 9-12 40 or 50mg anavar (ed)
week 15-18 Clomid / hcg
armidex/nolvedex onhand at all times
Had help from a pro, what do you bros think. Anyone else have experience with gh? DO I REALLY NEED THIS MANY DAILY INJECTIONS?
Thanks
tiny
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tiny2
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No GH users in the crowd
Bump
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Phil Hernon
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TRY THIS
IF YOU TOOK 18iu EVERY ON THE 1ST AND 15TH OF EACH MONTH, ONE SHOT, YOU WOULD NEVER GO BACK TO THE OTHER WAY.
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Phil Hernon
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LET ME ADD ONE MORE THING
ON THE DAY YOU TAKE THE 18iu, YOU NEED MORE INSULIN BECAUSE YOUR BLOOD SUGAR WILL BE SKY HIGH. YOU SHOULD TEST IT WITH A DIABETIC STRIP. IT WILL BE HIGH ON AVERAGE FOR ABOUT 3 DAYS, SO KEEP AN EYE ON IT. PREFERRABLY YOU CAN KEEP IT AROUND 90 ON THOSE DAYS, BUT DONT BE SURPRISED IF IT GOES TO 190 AT TIMES. I CANT TELL YOU WHAT DOSE OF INSULIN TO USE, YOU NEED TO CHECK IT OUT.
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tiny2
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thanks Phill
will i get the same results, just shooting 2 times a month
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Phil Hernon
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BETTER
FOR ME, BETTER. IT WORKED MUCH BETTER.
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tiny2
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Spent some time with a pro that visited our gym, he was an old friend of the owner, who i'm related to by marriage. He has used gh for 3 years, started off with 1 dose a week, says he has tried everything and that he believes the large gh does is waisted because there is not enough insulin produced to diliver it. Not sure, just a rokkie when it comes to gh. Have you tried daily shots.
thanks
tiny
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01-05-2002 09:26 AM
Ry Roid
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Yeah, I do my shots 18iu's the first 6 days of each month. I like it that way too. Phils way is good too.hehehe But, everyone should know that doing GH this way will make you trip over crates like Phil.hehehehhee
RY
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Phil Hernon
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DARNITALL
CAN YOU POST THE DREADED TRIP OVER THE CRATE PIC HERE RY??????? HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH
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CelestialMyst
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Phil
If you want me to post it I will. lol Also the other one that you sent..do you want me to edit anything in it?
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Phil Hernon
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AHAHAAAH
HI!!! NO, THEY ARE OK THAT WAY, THANK YOU!!! UNLESS YOU CAN MORPH IN SOME STRIATIONS HAHAHHAHAHAHHA
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Cold Fusion
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Well
You are already a big SOB, but I can add about 20 lbs if you wish. I can even put RY's head on you if you wish, or Big A's. Take your pic....lol.
Cold Fusion
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Apache
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Bump...
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I am interested in this different way of taking GH. Can some elaborate more on this?
Thanks,
Mike
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dougisbig
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Just bumpin' to the top. I am ready to try gh for growth and definately want to get the most out of my money! Any more ideas are appreciated. Diabeties runs in my family so I am curious if there are alternatives to slin? I realize glucophage makes your body more receptive to the insulin in already produces but would it be beneficial with growth? Any input is helpful.
doug
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Got Juice
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couple more questions.
phil your idea on using twice a month really interests me because i am a broke ass college student and thats actually affordable for me. but i have a couple of questions.
im not against using insulin, but i wanna know what the hell i am doing before i do use it. i dont plan on starting growth for about 2 months.
what i was also wondering is why your blood sugar levels rise when using growth? and since they are so high does it make insulin use less risky in terms of going hypo?
also at a dose of 18iu twice per month, would i want to continue using insulin for the 14 days inbetween shots?
Thanks, and sorry for all the question,
Todd
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Jethro Tull
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Phil and Ry...
The gh info is much appreciated...I too am on a budget and this method of gh use is pretty exciting if you are saying it works well. Heck...I could even afford it!
Thanks a lot, fellas.
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Got Juice
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just bumpin to the top to see if i can get a few replies.
Todd
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nandro
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hmmm.....i'm getting ready to start gh tomorrow. Now this method got me all interested (and confused). Ry HELP!
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02-07-2002 10:26 AM
rottweiler
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Tiny 2 your cycle looks good to me, I personally would keep the Steds down to a lower dose, but as I don't know your sted background I would say it's looking good.
I have used GH every day and it worked good with me.
I used to wake up inject slin and GH and have a breaky fit for a king, I would then train around 3pm followed by a shot of slin and mega mass equivalent own concucsion of a protein/carb shake followed an hour later by GH shot, and then I would cook another meal fit for a king, and then have a snack a few hours later. I would take slin mon, wed and fri for 6 weeks followed by 6 weeks off. I used sust and deca for 3 months followed by fina and winstrol for 2 months. I used 8iu ed of GH. Mind blowing results. It cost me a little under £3k.
If you got the money and you can get real genuine Humatrope which is like rocking horse shit, then you would not need as much as 8iu e/d.
It is quite apparent that children release GH many times through the day, every day, therefore daily administration seems to be the more logical road to follow, if you do a little bit more research on how GH is utilised in the liver you will learn that these large doses are wasting valuable GH.
I would be very interested in a study to determine the results of the different administration methods.
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rottweiler
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Something I forget to add to my last post, don't use Oxandralone when on GH, whether your using insulin or not. Anavar can induce insulin resistance. That means when the body absorbs a certain amount of glucose from food, it will take more insulin to move that glucose into cells.
Member
Registered: Jan 2002
Location: USA
Posts: 39
Proposed Gh cycle
Let me know what you Bro's think
16 week GH cycle
2iu Gh, 4 times a day
6iu insuline, 2 times a day
Gh is taken 2 hours before cardio in morning, insulin immeditaly after, second Gh 1 hour after insulin. Third Gh 2 hours before weigth training, insulin immeditaly after, fourth Gh 1 hour after insulin.
T-3, 25mcg every day(ed) for 7 weeks, then 2 weeks off, and back on for 7 weeks
AS Components
week 1-4 ...600mg deca
week 1-4 ...600mg sustanon
week 1-4 ...40 or 50mg dbol (ed)
week 5-8 ...600mg eq
week 5-8 ...600mg Test cyp
week 9-12 ..600mg deca
week 9-12 ..600mg sustanon
week 9-12 40 or 50mg anavar (ed)
week 15-18 Clomid / hcg
armidex/nolvedex onhand at all times
Had help from a pro, what do you bros think. Anyone else have experience with gh? DO I REALLY NEED THIS MANY DAILY INJECTIONS?
Thanks
tiny
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01-04-2002 10:38 AM
tiny2
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: USA
Posts: 39
No GH users in the crowd
Bump
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01-04-2002 11:57 PM
Phil Hernon
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Registered: Jan 2002
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Posts: 180
TRY THIS
IF YOU TOOK 18iu EVERY ON THE 1ST AND 15TH OF EACH MONTH, ONE SHOT, YOU WOULD NEVER GO BACK TO THE OTHER WAY.
Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged
01-05-2002 12:42 AM
Phil Hernon
IFBB PRO
Registered: Jan 2002
Location:
Posts: 180
LET ME ADD ONE MORE THING
ON THE DAY YOU TAKE THE 18iu, YOU NEED MORE INSULIN BECAUSE YOUR BLOOD SUGAR WILL BE SKY HIGH. YOU SHOULD TEST IT WITH A DIABETIC STRIP. IT WILL BE HIGH ON AVERAGE FOR ABOUT 3 DAYS, SO KEEP AN EYE ON IT. PREFERRABLY YOU CAN KEEP IT AROUND 90 ON THOSE DAYS, BUT DONT BE SURPRISED IF IT GOES TO 190 AT TIMES. I CANT TELL YOU WHAT DOSE OF INSULIN TO USE, YOU NEED TO CHECK IT OUT.
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01-05-2002 12:45 AM
tiny2
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thanks Phill
will i get the same results, just shooting 2 times a month
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01-05-2002 05:36 AM
Phil Hernon
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BETTER
FOR ME, BETTER. IT WORKED MUCH BETTER.
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01-05-2002 05:45 AM
tiny2
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: USA
Posts: 39
Spent some time with a pro that visited our gym, he was an old friend of the owner, who i'm related to by marriage. He has used gh for 3 years, started off with 1 dose a week, says he has tried everything and that he believes the large gh does is waisted because there is not enough insulin produced to diliver it. Not sure, just a rokkie when it comes to gh. Have you tried daily shots.
thanks
tiny
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01-05-2002 09:26 AM
Ry Roid
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Yeah, I do my shots 18iu's the first 6 days of each month. I like it that way too. Phils way is good too.hehehe But, everyone should know that doing GH this way will make you trip over crates like Phil.hehehehhee
RY
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Phil Hernon
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DARNITALL
CAN YOU POST THE DREADED TRIP OVER THE CRATE PIC HERE RY??????? HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH
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CelestialMyst
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Phil
If you want me to post it I will. lol Also the other one that you sent..do you want me to edit anything in it?
Celestial Myst
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Phil Hernon
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AHAHAAAH
HI!!! NO, THEY ARE OK THAT WAY, THANK YOU!!! UNLESS YOU CAN MORPH IN SOME STRIATIONS HAHAHHAHAHAHHA
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01-05-2002 10:21 PM
Cold Fusion
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Well
You are already a big SOB, but I can add about 20 lbs if you wish. I can even put RY's head on you if you wish, or Big A's. Take your pic....lol.
Cold Fusion
__________________
Victory is what happens when ten thousand hours of training meet up with one moment of opportunity.
______________________________
The trouble with going with the flow is, you might wind up getting sucked down the drain.
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01-06-2002 01:47 AM
Apache
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Location: USA
Posts: 16
Bump...
...Bump
I am interested in this different way of taking GH. Can some elaborate more on this?
Thanks,
Mike
Last edited by Apache on 02-03-2002 at 06:10 AM
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02-03-2002 12:56 AM
dougisbig
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Just bumpin' to the top. I am ready to try gh for growth and definately want to get the most out of my money! Any more ideas are appreciated. Diabeties runs in my family so I am curious if there are alternatives to slin? I realize glucophage makes your body more receptive to the insulin in already produces but would it be beneficial with growth? Any input is helpful.
doug
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02-04-2002 11:10 PM
Got Juice
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couple more questions.
phil your idea on using twice a month really interests me because i am a broke ass college student and thats actually affordable for me. but i have a couple of questions.
im not against using insulin, but i wanna know what the hell i am doing before i do use it. i dont plan on starting growth for about 2 months.
what i was also wondering is why your blood sugar levels rise when using growth? and since they are so high does it make insulin use less risky in terms of going hypo?
also at a dose of 18iu twice per month, would i want to continue using insulin for the 14 days inbetween shots?
Thanks, and sorry for all the question,
Todd
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02-06-2002 09:56 AM
Jethro Tull
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Montana
Posts: 76
Phil and Ry...
The gh info is much appreciated...I too am on a budget and this method of gh use is pretty exciting if you are saying it works well. Heck...I could even afford it!
Thanks a lot, fellas.
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02-06-2002 09:57 PM
Got Juice
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just bumpin to the top to see if i can get a few replies.
Todd
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02-07-2002 07:11 AM
nandro
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hmmm.....i'm getting ready to start gh tomorrow. Now this method got me all interested (and confused). Ry HELP!
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02-07-2002 10:26 AM
rottweiler
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Tiny 2 your cycle looks good to me, I personally would keep the Steds down to a lower dose, but as I don't know your sted background I would say it's looking good.
I have used GH every day and it worked good with me.
I used to wake up inject slin and GH and have a breaky fit for a king, I would then train around 3pm followed by a shot of slin and mega mass equivalent own concucsion of a protein/carb shake followed an hour later by GH shot, and then I would cook another meal fit for a king, and then have a snack a few hours later. I would take slin mon, wed and fri for 6 weeks followed by 6 weeks off. I used sust and deca for 3 months followed by fina and winstrol for 2 months. I used 8iu ed of GH. Mind blowing results. It cost me a little under £3k.
If you got the money and you can get real genuine Humatrope which is like rocking horse shit, then you would not need as much as 8iu e/d.
It is quite apparent that children release GH many times through the day, every day, therefore daily administration seems to be the more logical road to follow, if you do a little bit more research on how GH is utilised in the liver you will learn that these large doses are wasting valuable GH.
I would be very interested in a study to determine the results of the different administration methods.
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02-08-2002 07:56 PM
rottweiler
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Registered: Feb 2002
Location:
Posts: 4
Something I forget to add to my last post, don't use Oxandralone when on GH, whether your using insulin or not. Anavar can induce insulin resistance. That means when the body absorbs a certain amount of glucose from food, it will take more insulin to move that glucose into cells.
