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Proviron and Caber kick in time?

bigdawg66

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hello all, looking for anyone with experience with proviron and/or Caber specifically for Libido benefits, if you have experience please take a moment to read below.
Ive been struggling with hypogonadal issues since I was about 22 or 23 years old. I was an idiot between the ages of 19-21 and cycled wrecklessly with way too little PCT. When I was 26 I finally had insurance so my blood work came back with total test of 243. inititially put on androgel, which worked great for about 2 weeks, then (and i knew this would happen) my endogenous test production shutdown and felt like I did before. Went to a Urologist and was perscribed 25mg of Clomid daily. Now it took about 2 weeks but i did feel somewhat like myself again, libido was there just enough... but not great. Then after a about a month I kept getting so moody, I did some research and found this is a common side effect. I also got a blood work done regularly and remember seeing total test of 695, but E2 was up around 75 or so. Ive taken clomid on and off, Im sick of the mediocrity of my results and recently decided to really look into how to fix these issues. I do not have insurance anymore so I am unable to get my bloodwork done so I have to go off of how I feel.

So I got some proviron and nolvadex from a solid source, a trainer of some IFBB pros, and ordered Cabgergoline from ManPower Research. I figured the proviron will cover me in terms androgenic effects, libido, energy etc, the nolvedex is better version of the clomid and also doesnt desensitize the leydig cells to LH so should get atleast the same Test production as I did from the Clomid if not more. I've also found in my research that alot of current research is going toward controlling prolactin so began taken Cabergoline from MPR, 0.5 E4day. SO Today is day 7 on the proviron, for the first 6 days ive taken 50mg daily (split AM and PM doses), and really cant say I feel any different, so today I doubled to 100mg (split between AM and PM). I also just popped my 2nd dose of Caber as it is the 4th day after the last pill. I am also a bit worried that perhaps the caber is not legit? I know MPR has a good reputation but another member posted bloodwork while he was on MPR caber and his prolactin was 28, so that really does concern me. I also doubt the proviron is fake but anything is possible, it came in 25mg tablets, in blister packs from Bayer.

So my question is has anyone used any of these (proviron or Caber) especially between cycles for libido benefits? If so how long did it take for you to feel the benefits? what was your doese? was it gradual or did you just wake one day feeling like a pornstar?

Thank you again for taking the time to read and any input is very much appreciated!
 

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hello all, looking for anyone with experience with proviron and/or Caber specifically for Libido benefits, if you have experience please take a moment to read below.
Ive been struggling with hypogonadal issues since I was about 22 or 23 years old. I was an idiot between the ages of 19-21 and cycled wrecklessly with way too little PCT. When I was 26 I finally had insurance so my blood work came back with total test of 243. inititially put on androgel, which worked great for about 2 weeks, then (and i knew this would happen) my endogenous test production shutdown and felt like I did before. Went to a Urologist and was perscribed 25mg of Clomid daily. Now it took about 2 weeks but i did feel somewhat like myself again, libido was there just enough... but not great. Then after a about a month I kept getting so moody, I did some research and found this is a common side effect. I also got a blood work done regularly and remember seeing total test of 695, but E2 was up around 75 or so. Ive taken clomid on and off, Im sick of the mediocrity of my results and recently decided to really look into how to fix these issues. I do not have insurance anymore so I am unable to get my bloodwork done so I have to go off of how I feel.

So I got some proviron and nolvadex from a solid source, a trainer of some IFBB pros, and ordered Cabgergoline from ManPower Research. I figured the proviron will cover me in terms androgenic effects, libido, energy etc, the nolvedex is better version of the clomid and also doesnt desensitize the leydig cells to LH so should get atleast the same Test production as I did from the Clomid if not more. I've also found in my research that alot of current research is going toward controlling prolactin so began taken Cabergoline from MPR, 0.5 E4day. SO Today is day 7 on the proviron, for the first 6 days ive taken 50mg daily (split AM and PM doses), and really cant say I feel any different, so today I doubled to 100mg (split between AM and PM). I also just popped my 2nd dose of Caber as it is the 4th day after the last pill. I am also a bit worried that perhaps the caber is not legit? I know MPR has a good reputation but another member posted bloodwork while he was on MPR caber and his prolactin was 28, so that really does concern me. I also doubt the proviron is fake but anything is possible, it came in 25mg tablets, in blister packs from Bayer.

So my question is has anyone used any of these (proviron or Caber) especially between cycles for libido benefits? If so how long did it take for you to feel the benefits? what was your doese? was it gradual or did you just wake one day feeling like a pornstar?

Thank you again for taking the time to read and any input is very much appreciated!


I have never utilized proviron so i cant provide any information on that. I have however used the caber and can say from what i have experienced it is definitely legit.

I think every 4th day is to far between, id say e3d would be better in my opinion and this is what i researched.
 

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I am on manpower's caber right now and tren ace. I 100% know I lactate while on tren and get tren dick etc...all the prolactin sides.

I don't have any prolactin sides this time.

Also it won't matter how little prolactin you have if you have zero libido / low test / or serious anxiety over your dick not working, just sayin'.
 

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I have never utilized proviron so i cant provide any information on that. I have however used the caber and can say from what i have experienced it is definitely legit.

I think every 4th day is to far between, id say e3d would be better in my opinion and this is what i researched.
Ok thank you, will try that if I dont sany improvement.
 

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I am on manpower's caber right now and tren ace. I 100% know I lactate while on tren and get tren dick etc...all the prolactin sides.

I don't have any prolactin sides this time.

Also it won't matter how little prolactin you have if you have zero libido / low test / or serious anxiety over your dick not working, just sayin'.
Thanks for verifying MPR's Caber, and yes I hear you and agree.. just that with all the ups and downs over the years I'm pretty good at knowing the difference with just the anxiety or if I'm just not "feeling it".
 

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Caber doesn't kick in for me until the end of the 2nd week of dosing. Prami OTOH seems to kick in within 3 days.
 

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I'll concur that I've found caber to take awhile to fully saturate. But after two weeks you should be gtg. With proviron that seems to hit pretty immediately especially if you take enough 50mg+.
 

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I'll concur that I've found caber to take awhile to fully saturate. But after two weeks you should be gtg. With proviron that seems to hit pretty immediately especially if you take enough 50mg+.
Thank you, so you're saying the proviron should have "kicked in" by now? its day 8, (days 1-6 50mg, day 7 100mg, today so far 75mg) and really cant say thing feel any better. OR did you mean the proviron will make the Caber hit faster... i.e it should have already?
 

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I get boners by the second day on 50mg proviron.
 

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I get boners by the second day on 50mg proviron.
Wow really? damn starting to wonder if mine is crap or if its juts not gonna work, do you run yours with Test? or in between cycles?
 

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Thank you, so you're saying the proviron should have "kicked in" by now? its day 8, (days 1-6 50mg, day 7 100mg, today so far 75mg) and really cant say thing feel any better. OR did you mean the proviron will make the Caber hit faster... i.e it should have already?
first dose of 50mg+ of Proviron usually does the trick
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bigdawg66 if you've taken that much and proviron and nothing has happened something is amiss
 

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Dont know if youve tried, but cialis will give you added confidence, and I mention it because it does make me horny for a couple days, sometimes longer than the 36hr window.

If you havent tried, i highly recommend
 

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:yeahthat:

bigdawg66 if you've taken that much and proviron and nothing has happened something is amiss
Yes I'm starting to think that! ungh, Now considering adding in test, any reccomendations on how much and what kind? I used Sustanon 250 and 300, thinking maybe... 250-500mg week of a test, 50mg proviron, 10-20mg nolva, and 0.5 caber every 3rd or 4th day???

Im open to suggestions? I'll give it a few more days, also from what I've reserached if prolactin is the issue proviron wont do anything for that, and every one is telling me it takes about 2 weeks for the Caber to kick in.
 

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Dont know if youve tried, but cialis will give you added confidence, and I mention it because it does make me horny for a couple days, sometimes longer than the 36hr window.

If you havent tried, i highly recommend
I have when I was only on Clomid, 25mg daily, the confidence helped but cant really say it worked? and not to mention I got the side effects which made it less fun, stuffy nose, a headache etc. But maybe will try if I can start to feel some improvement and might need a kicker. Thanks for the input.
 

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I read a thread here recently that was raving about a new peptide that made you extremely horny. Contact Phil or JohnJuan at Ergo pep and ask what it is- it may just be what your looking for. Good luck bro
 

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It gets very difficult to sort out without bloodwork.

From our experience a noticable increase in libido will be experience within 24 hours.

But heres the problem:

We have the same (not the same as your, but maybe) proviron, and there can be times when our libido is down and after taking proivron bang libido spikes and with daily dosing or twice daily dosing we can ride it out happily for a few weeks.

We also note a shortended sleep period when we take it in late afternoon and we are responding.

BUT:

We can assume we need it at other times, and add it and get zip of a response, and kicking the dose up does not seem to give us the libido response.

The only thing we assume is that if you do not really have the proviron need theres nothing to correct or effect.

And without bloodwork we admit the assumptions are just that. but people who respond seem to show that if you truly need it, it kicks in rapidly in a way that you notice.

We would advise anyone who can not correct their libido try it at 25mg or 50mg a day. Just do not assume that its the product if you are not getting the response. Maybe you did not have the physiologic need or ability to respond the way you thought. thats why we kinda believe hardon pills are like the first line of defense. There about the best hope to get it up intermittently. Heres the kicker though the hardon pills sometime are the easiest to call bunk on becuase if you can not get it up as the last thing any of us want to do is own that. But without desire, without libido, these drugs may not work.


IPG
 

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It gets very difficult to sort out without bloodwork.

From our experience a noticable increase in libido will be experience within 24 hours.

But heres the problem:

We have the same (not the same as your, but maybe) proviron, and there can be times when our libido is down and after taking proivron bang libido spikes and with daily dosing or twice daily dosing we can ride it out happily for a few weeks.

We also note a shortended sleep period when we take it in late afternoon and we are responding.

BUT:

We can assume we need it at other times, and add it and get zip of a response, and kicking the dose up does not seem to give us the libido response.

The only thing we assume is that if you do not really have the proviron need theres nothing to correct or effect.

And without bloodwork we admit the assumptions are just that. but people who respond seem to show that if you truly need it, it kicks in rapidly in a way that you notice.

We would advise anyone who can not correct their libido try it at 25mg or 50mg a day. Just do not assume that its the product if you are not getting the response. Maybe you did not have the physiologic need or ability to respond the way you thought. thats why we kinda believe hardon pills are like the first line of defense. There about the best hope to get it up intermittently. Heres the kicker though the hardon pills sometime are the easiest to call bunk on becuase if you can not get it up as the last thing any of us want to do is own that. But without desire, without libido, these drugs may not work.


IPG
Thank you very much for the feedback, but one question are you running test either as HRT/TRT or on a cycle when you use the proviron? or do you take it alone?
 

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