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Questions Regarding Response to GHRP & CJC 1295

Jin Xie

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Hey all. My rat is a noobie to peps.

So, my rat is taking CJC 1295 at 100 mcgs before sleep, and GHRP at 100 mcgs per day, three times per day. (He's also taking MT-ii at 500 mcgs per day.)

1) First, the first time he took the peps, he got the flush. Since then, he didn't feel anything immediately after, even at 300 mcgs in a single dose. Same response for multiple vials. Any reason for concern?

2) While it seems rat is losing some fat, and dropping weight, he's a little paunchy in the guy. Looks like fluid retention. Is this normal, will it remit?

3) Rat's seems to be suffering from regular headaches. Is this normal, will it remit? I've read that the MT-ii can cause this.

4) It seems rat is suffering from sleep disturbance. It looks like he is in an active dream state, and wakes up feeling nonrestored. Will this remit? Is there anything that I can do to mitigate this effect on the rat?

5) Finally, rat is really bruising from the pinning. Rat never responded to hCG like this. Both mixed with BA. Perhaps it's largely a function of more pinning. Reason for concern?

Thanks much. You guys are a great source of info.
J
 
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Hey all. My rat is a noobie to peps.

So, my rat is taking CJC 1295 at 100 mcgs before sleep, and GHRP at 100 mcgs per day, three times per day. (He's also taking MT-ii at 500 mcgs per day.)

1) First, the first time he took the peps, he got the flush. Since then, he didn't feel anything immediately after, even at 300 mcgs in a single dose. Same response for multiple vials. Any reason for concern?

2) While it seems rat is losing some fat, and dropping weight, he's a little paunchy in the guy. Looks like fluid retention. Is this normal, will it remit?

3) Rat's seems to be suffering from regular headaches. Is this normal, will it remit? I've read that the MT-ii can cause this.

4) It seems rat is suffering from sleep disturbance. It looks like he is in an active dream state, and wakes up feeling nonrestored. Will this remit? Is there anything that I can do to mitigate this effect on the rat?

5) Finally, rat is really bruising from the pinning. Rat never responded to hCG like this. Both mixed with BA. Perhaps it's largely a function of more pinning. Reason for concern?

Thanks much. You guys are a great source of info.
J
I'm interested to know.
Particularty about his sleeping patern.

Does your he have trouble sleeping?
Like it takes a while to get to sleep?
 

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I'm interested to know.
Particularty about his sleeping patern.

Does your he have trouble sleeping?
Like it takes a while to get to sleep?
That's my problem, I lay awake in bed for at least 30mins. I sleep fine, really good actually, it's just getting to sleep
 

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If sleep is disturbed, try switching to ipamorelin in place of GHRP. Bloating, headaches and such are common sides for some people sensitive to sudden increases of GH. Taper it down and back up. Where are you pinning that your bruising? Theres very little vascularity in abdomen adispose tissue. Don't pin IM, pin sub-q into fat.
 

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If sleep is disturbed, try switching to ipamorelin in place of GHRP. Bloating, headaches and such are common sides for some people sensitive to sudden increases of GH. Taper it down and back up. Where are you pinning that your bruising? Theres very little vascularity in abdomen adispose tissue. Don't pin IM, pin sub-q into fat.
Thanks disgraziato.

I will consider ipamorelin and did this time. It seemed cost prohibitive at 300 mcgs per day on a long term basis. But once I get cranked up, I will definitely consider it. Strangely, the GRHP-6 seems more problematic for sleep than the 2, though less cortisol response according to DAT. In any event, I've taken HC before, and it didn't interfere much with my sleep.

Good suggestion re tapering and then hitting it again. I'll try it. I also am going to lay rat off the CJC 1295 (DAC), even though shouldn't make much difference given the DAC, assuming it's there and stable (i.e., hasn't been compromised -- several of my CJC discs were pulverized, and I used those first).

Pinning with good form, sub-q in rat's gut. Been doing it for 3 years, at least twice weekly, including Test (which I've shot elsewhere -- thighs, delts, glutes; rat is a developed specimen). I may start sharing the love with his other areas with more adipose, though he's relatively lean. I do want to get rid of his paunchiness, as he just doesn't arouse me as he used to, lol.

* What about not feeling the flush, but the first time? On know the MT-ii is doing it's job, so I assume the other peps are too. Supplier has a great rep and is a really good guy, so it seems to me

Thanks for looking out.
 

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Thanks disgraziato.

I will consider ipamorelin and did this time. It seemed cost prohibitive at 300 mcgs per day on a long term basis. But once I get cranked up, I will definitely consider it. Strangely, the GRHP-6 seems more problematic for sleep than the 2, though less cortisol response according to DAT. In any event, I've taken HC before, and it didn't interfere much with my sleep.

Good suggestion re tapering and then hitting it again. I'll try it. I also am going to lay rat off the CJC 1295 (DAC), even though shouldn't make much difference given the DAC, assuming it's there and stable (i.e., hasn't been compromised -- several of my CJC discs were pulverized, and I used those first).

Pinning with good form, sub-q in rat's gut. Been doing it for 3 years, at least twice weekly, including Test (which I've shot elsewhere -- thighs, delts, glutes; rat is a developed specimen). I may start sharing the love with his other areas with more adipose, though he's relatively lean. I do want to get rid of his paunchiness, as he just doesn't arouse me as he used to, lol.

* What about not feeling the flush, but the first time? On know the MT-ii is doing it's job, so I assume the other peps are too. Supplier has a great rep and is a really good guy, so it seems to me

Thanks for looking out.
Well, you're having sides that are common with elevated gh levels, so I wouldn't worry about integrity of your product.
 

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The pouch in your lower abs is normal, i got that from ghrp-6 but not from ipamorelin. As far as sleep, I get no sleep from all three peptides. I feel the flush once in a great while but not often.
 

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The pouch in your lower abs is normal, i got that from ghrp-6 but not from ipamorelin. As far as sleep, I get no sleep from all three peptides. I feel the flush once in a great while but not often.
Thanks fellas. The rat appreciates it.

Other notables. Tried pinning rat in the delt, even though I know the strong consensus is in the gut. I figure worse case, it reduces the half life, no big thing. Rat seems to feel and see the flush again. I assume it's being metabolized quicker, thus the response.

As for sleep, and responding to some others, as with others, rat is having issues with sleep onset, as well as waking up in the middle of the night. He sleeps restfully every 2-3 nights. I need to drop him a tranquilizer in the middle of the night. Perhaps it's time to place rat's companion on notice that she may need to be on call at all hours of the night for booty-induced soporifia, lol. Also worth mentioning, rat's MT-ii is likely part of the culprit. Even at 250 mcgs, he's got unremitting wood, that's like hardened steel. It puts viagra to shame. Still need to get rat's T levels up (FT and BioT are below mid range, TT is 30% lower than usual), as they really got torn up from his recent surgery, in spite of continued treatment at regular levels. This could also be from elevated blood sugar and lack of exercise, I suppose, though probably mostly trauma and surging cortisol to resist inflammation.

Rat's also been experiencing elevated blood sugars, which may also speak to quality of research peps. I placed him on Metformin. After doing some research, however brief, it seems this may really help resist some of the bad sides, including the paunchiness. Rat also hit the gym yesterday for the first time since treatment, and given what he's been through and recovering from, he performed admirably, and got a real nice pump that continues today. His gut has really firmed up. So, blood sugar, holding water, and lack of pump may have been part of the issue. It's notable that rat only worked arms and core, and his whole upper body got nicely pumped. Hmmm.

Sorry for the tome. Hope this helps some. Always enjoy the feedback. Rat needs to get to the gym, so adios.

P.S. In spite of recent trauma, rat's post surgical, pre pep IGF-1 level was 278. Pretty admirable. I imagine they are much higher now. Rat's always been slow-wave sleep challenged, so he's likely to really benefit from the GHRH. Elevated IGF-1 levels, by themselves, don't do much good. Need that pulse. I hope he's getting it now.
 
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I've been wanting to run the MT II with the CJC/GHRP 3X protocol. I've been wanting to see if it will help with the hunger related with the GHRP. What have you noticed so far? Has it helped blunt the hunger?
 

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