Raws Orals

[Zeus10]

Hey when purchasing raws for orals such as T-bol, Var and Proviron do you need to do anything to the powder? Can someone just weigh it up and take it orally? I know some people cap it but do you have to add anything to the powder before digesting it? Thanks guys this is for my research project.

 

[bringthepain]

Hey when purchasing raws for orals such as T-bol, Var and Proviron do you need to do anything to the powder? Can someone just weigh it up and take it orally? I know some people cap it but do you have to add anything to the powder before digesting it? Thanks guys this is for my research project.

I always found oral powders to be a complete pain in the ass. But, you can simply weigh the powder and use BS water to suspend it in. Just shake up the solution before you draw it out. Or you can go the 151 route but that tastes even worse...

 

[Zeus10]

I always found oral powders to be a complete pain in the ass. But, you can simply weigh the powder and use BS water to suspend it in. Just shake up the solution before you draw it out. Or you can go the 151 route but that tastes even worse...

So you do have to add some type of suspension? Why is that? Why can you not just scoop the powder in your mouth and drink some water? Is it because there may be some type of bacteria in it?

I know 20 questions right?

 

[Zeus10]

The more im searching and reading into it it sounds like you can just weigh it and dump it into your mouth. Making liquid you can use grape seed oil, alcohol, olive oil.

 

[vintagemuscle]

Adding a liquid seems to make it easier to get the proper dosing. Generally bacteria is not a major issue with orals as opposed to injects.

Vintagemuscle

 

[PsyT]

suspending it in liquid is a tactic some might use to make dosing more equal (to ensure steady dosage rates).

If you have a scale accurate to .002g then you are fine weighing individual doses out. Its a pain in the ass though I can tell you that!

 

[Zeus10]

suspending it in liquid is a tactic some might use to make dosing more equal (to ensure steady dosage rates).

If you have a scale accurate to .002g then you are fine weighing individual doses out. Its a pain in the ass though I can tell you that!

Adding a liquid seems to make it easier to get the proper dosing. Generally bacteria is not a major issue with orals as opposed to injects.

Vintagemuscle

Thanks for the replies!

 

[marshallmadman]

Why not just learn how to cap? I would really like to see you weigh out 20mg of powder every time you need a dose. That would be a joke.

First you figure out how much powder one empty cap holds. Size 3 caps hold approximately 200mg of powder. If you are making 100 20mg Anavar for example you would need 2 grams of Anavar powder, and 18 grams of "filler". You mix the 2g of Var powder with the filler in a bag, and then pour the mixture onto your capping plate filled with empty capsules. Scrape the powder into the empty capsules, pack the powder down into them, and scrape again until you have all the powder packed into the capsules. Drop the plate, and put the tops on them.

The math all depends on the size of your empties. I like size 3 caps because they leave you much less room for error.

 

[jm425]

I always found oral powders to be a complete pain in the ass. But, you can simply weigh the powder and use BS water to suspend it in. Just shake up the solution before you draw it out. Or you can go the 151 route but that tastes even worse...

Var will not suspend in 151. However, it will suspend in everclear.

 

[Zeus10]

Why not just learn how to cap? I would really like to see you weigh out 20mg of powder every time you need a dose. That would be a joke.

First you figure out how much powder one empty cap holds. Size 3 caps hold approximately 200mg of powder. If you are making 100 20mg Anavar for example you would need 2 grams of Anavar powder, and 18 grams of "filler". You mix the 2g of Var powder with the filler in a bag, and then pour the mixture onto your capping plate filled with empty capsules. Scrape the powder into the empty capsules, pack the powder down into them, and scrape again until you have all the powder packed into the capsules. Drop the plate, and put the tops on them.

The math all depends on the size of your empties. I like size 3 caps because they leave you much less room for error.

LOL you got a good point about trying to weigh 20mg. I guess thats why some people make it into liquid. Where do you get filler from? Also do you have a good site to purchase capsules and everything else I would need?

 

[PsyT]

Why not just learn how to cap? I would really like to see you weigh out 20mg of powder every time you need a dose. That would be a joke.

First you figure out how much powder one empty cap holds. Size 3 caps hold approximately 200mg of powder. If you are making 100 20mg Anavar for example you would need 2 grams of Anavar powder, and 18 grams of "filler". You mix the 2g of Var powder with the filler in a bag, and then pour the mixture onto your capping plate filled with empty capsules. Scrape the powder into the empty capsules, pack the powder down into them, and scrape again until you have all the powder packed into the capsules. Drop the plate, and put the tops on them.

The math all depends on the size of your empties. I like size 3 caps because they leave you much less room for error.

two problems I see

density of powder varies, even in the same batch in the same baggie! The denser the material the heavier it will be for the same amount by appearance!

also there is no way to ensure uniform distribution of the filler material in the drug material unless you have a compounding machinery at your home (and I seriously doubt you do!).

I think you are much safer do liquid measurement or just buy a cheap jewelry scale and weigh out individual doses (set aside an hour or two if you gotta make a hundred or so lol it IS a pain in the ass!). Get a scale accurate to .002g and you will be fine with amounts weighing 10-50mg. Anything less accurate and the deviation will be too great and dosage errors could occur.

take care of yourself...messing about with raw synthetic hormone powder is no joke

 

[Ehren]

All good suggestions. IMO the easiest is in liquid form/suspension (in Olive Oil) for Oral powders. I like oil because the viscosity of it allows you to draw it into the oral syringe before it falls to the bottom, causing an uneven dose.

For example, measure out 50ml of Oil and pour into a plastic vial.
Then measure out 2.5 grams (2500 mg) of Var/Winnie etc. and add it to the oil. You have 50mg per/ML of oil.

Shake WELL, then draw out 1 or 2 ml into an oral syringe, depending on the dose you want (50 or 100mg for example). Suck it down with a grapefruit juice chaser. And there you go. Works well.

 

[BEASTZ6]

Why not just learn how to cap? I would really like to see you weigh out 20mg of powder every time you need a dose. That would be a joke.

First you figure out how much powder one empty cap holds. Size 3 caps hold approximately 200mg of powder. If you are making 100 20mg Anavar for example you would need 2 grams of Anavar powder, and 18 grams of "filler". You mix the 2g of Var powder with the filler in a bag, and then pour the mixture onto your capping plate filled with empty capsules. Scrape the powder into the empty capsules, pack the powder down into them, and scrape again until you have all the powder packed into the capsules. Drop the plate, and put the tops on them.

The math all depends on the size of your empties. I like size 3 caps because they leave you much less room for error.

This is exactly what I do. Works like a charm. I do 50 caps at a time.

 

[qwerty_uk]

also there is no way to ensure uniform distribution of the filler material in the drug material unless you have a compounding machinery at your home (and I seriously doubt you do!).

Easy.. using marshallmadman example you'd get 2g var with 2g filler mix throughly you will also see the texture slightly different.

Now mix this (4g) with another 4g filler mix throughly again

Mix this 8g with another 8g then do it again with the left over filler.

You could also add less filler each time ensuring you mix it well.


Also you could get a plastic tube etc cut in half at a 45 degree angle, rotate the two pieces so they form a 'V' shape glue these together ideally with some epoxy glue then seal the ends.

Then glue to poles to each side so it can spin and be pretty well balanced, then you can make a stand and add a motor to one side.

Then you have a pretty decent mixer

 

[lazer05]

What do yous prefer to use as a powder filler?

 

[Zeus10]

Easy.. using marshallmadman example you'd get 2g var with 2g filler mix throughly you will also see the texture slightly different.

Now mix this (4g) with another 4g filler mix throughly again

Mix this 8g with another 8g then do it again with the left over filler.

You could also add less filler each time ensuring you mix it well.


Also you could get a plastic tube etc cut in half at a 45 degree angle, rotate the two pieces so they form a 'V' shape glue these together ideally with some epoxy glue then seal the ends.

Then glue to poles to each side so it can spin and be pretty well balanced, then you can make a stand and add a motor to one side.

Then you have a pretty decent mixer

Hardcore Bro! Impressive.

It sounds like using oil is the easiest way. Although I will go buy a scale and see if I can measure the powder accurately because that sounds like what I want to do. Anyone have a good link to a good cheap scale? I see we have a new sponsor that sells oils and other stuff that would be usefull. MGK

 

[liftalot79]

Caps are what my Buddy Does

He takes 20-50 Grams of Proviron and 20-50 Grams of Clomid. He then Weighs and mixes so he has a 50mg Clomid/50mg Proviron conversion and just caps it. I take one a day and it is Fantastic.

 

[Stewie Griffon]

as someone said earlier weighing tiny amount like 20mg is nearly impossible without a very expensive scale.

the liquid route is ok cause you can weigh a larger amount and add it to a certain volume of liquid and you have your dose.

my question is this: - anavar wont dissolve in anything

tried:
everclear 190 proof
isopropyl rubbing alcohol
acetone
grapeseed oil
olive oil
water
methanol
gas
bunch of others

yes most of that list was not going to result in something useable, i just was trying different stuff to just to see if it would dissolve. either someone sent bunk or anavar has the solubility of sand

 

[jm425]

as someone said earlier weighing tiny amount like 20mg is nearly impossible without a very expensive scale.

the liquid route is ok cause you can weigh a larger amount and add it to a certain volume of liquid and you have your dose.

my question is this: - anavar wont dissolve in anything

tried:
everclear 190 proof
isopropyl rubbing alcohol
acetone
grapeseed oil
olive oil
water
methanol
gas
bunch of others

yes most of that list was not going to result in something useable, i just was trying different stuff to just to see if it would dissolve. either someone sent bunk or anavar has the solubility of sand

Rubbing alchohol, gas, methanol?! Jesus, man, I hope you weren't going to ingest var orally if it did suspend in those substances.

 

[PsyT]

^ those solvents would suffice if you wanted to dose out the liquid and evaporate the solvent in a glass dish, scrape the powder and consume. That would be a PITA (reoccuring trend with raw powders ain't it ).